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    An appliance

    3.3 appliance

    machine, tool, device or instrument that is operated by electricity for the purpose of doing work, or for providing heat, light or motion, or in which electrical energy is modified into another form of energy.

    An inverter would be regarded as an appliance because it can modify "electrical energy" into anotehr form of energy.

    Would a solar panel or battery be refered to as a power supply or an appliance? I see when some people reference regs for batteries and inverters they refer to the units as appliances, for disconnection devices etc.
    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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    An appliance uses power from a point of consumption.

    A power supply supplies power to a point of consumption.

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    An inverter with batterias can either be an appliance or a supply depending on the configuration.

    If the inverter and batteries are used in the plug and play mode where the inverters output is not connected to the electrical installation, then it's an appliance.

    The moment the output of the inverter is connected to the electrical installation, it becomes a supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isetech View Post
    3.3 appliance

    machine, tool, device or instrument that is operated by electricity for the purpose of doing work, or for providing heat, light or motion, or in which electrical energy is modified into another form of energy.

    An inverter would be regarded as an appliance because it can modify "electrical energy" into anotehr form of energy.

    Would a solar panel or battery be refered to as a power supply or an appliance? I see when some people reference regs for batteries and inverters they refer to the units as appliances, for disconnection devices etc.

    Please help me - Into what form of energy does an Inverter modify electricity ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    An inverter with batterias can either be an appliance or a supply depending on the configuration.

    If the inverter and batteries are used in the plug and play mode where the inverters output is not connected to the electrical installation, then it's an appliance.

    The moment the output of the inverter is connected to the electrical installation, it becomes a supply.
    An inverter can never be an appliance , not sure why this discussions has come to the fore again as the so called PV installers with no qualification were using this Appliance story as a way around having to be an electrical contractor - That was put to bed and squarely covered under 7.12

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    @GCE I hear you. For me, however, it's difficult to see how an inverter supplied with a 16A plugtop meant to be plugged into a standard 16 Amp socket outlet can be anything else but an appliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    @GCE I hear you. For me, however, it's difficult to see how an inverter supplied with a 16A plugtop meant to be plugged into a standard 16 Amp socket outlet can be anything else but an appliance.
    It is an inverter , static UPS - Has been that way all the years

    We never called a UPS or generator an appliance

    Definition is clear that an appliance takes Elec Energy and converts it to another form of energy

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    @GCE Thanks for that.
    As a matter of interest, how would one classify an electric fence energiser ?

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    So then if a trolly inverter is not an appliance then surely it needs to have the correct protection in the way of circuit breakers and more so an Earth leakage device as they always come with a standard 3 pin socket and not a dedicated ?

    Interesting this, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    @GCE Thanks for that.
    As a matter of interest, how would one classify an electric fence energiser ?
    I would classify it as an Electrical Fence energizer - It comes along with it's own set of rules and regs in OHSA


    Extract below from OHSA Electrical Machinery Definitions

    "electric fence" means an electrified barrier consisting of one or more bare
    conductors erected against the trespass of persons or animals;
    "electric fence energiser" means electrical machinery arranged so as to deliver
    a periodic non-lethal amount of electrical energy to an electric fence connected to
    it;
    "electric fence system" means an electric fence and an electric fence
    energiser;

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