Directors Duties and Liabilities in RSA

[Lawyer Destroyer]

With Criminal Intent....

Dave - point taken - "alleged" it is then, clearly alleged.

This is not harassment or being unreasonable to DR DS Grieve - even his own colleagues and doctors at Unitas have blackballed him in the face of their own challenge for him to make a public media statement about what happened to the old pensioners and former patients money, the silence is deafening and always has been....... money. It didn't just vanish in the last two weeks before he liquidated now did it - those were his words on another website when this all started, we can open that one with enough trying I am sure. . - Dr DS Grieve stated on Facebook he was busy with his next financial venture and would be carrying this out shortly, and as suggested by an angry young man on Justtext.com whose Grandfather from Delmas Dr DS Grieve had recently spoke to again about investments and investing......see his reaction - as well as a lot of folk who know the Grieve couple....by all impressions well.
http://www.justtext.com/messageboard...703065751.html or http://www.justtext.com/messageboard...216173034.html...I note someone will be publishing this whole Facebook conversation between Dr DS Grieve and his Witbank High School friend in due course......

this is fraud exposure, mass education, and fraud prevention.

and I think its time for mainstream media coverage anyway. This thread alone has had more readership than some communal newspapers like the Centurion Rekord for instance. LD

Dr DS Grieve & Sanet Grieve Botha (legal Justification - Picture taken from Facebook website)

[AndyD]

The question is really why are there no tangible steps toward justice if such blatant and widespread fraud was allegedly perpetrated? Conversations and threads on social networking sites are not action, why is there no prosecuton or class action?

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Answer:- Legal action and prosecution

Andy
Did some fact finding last week and can confirm "all of the above" in process. The SAPS specialists are on the trail, a number of regulatory legislative enforcement bodies are involved and an extensive civil action is also in progress. Watch this space. I don't want to let the "cat" too far out the bag here although I am happy to PM you with more specific details if you want me to. One thing is certain - the investors are not sitting back idly waiting for a rainy day or for the liquidators and lawyers to sort this out. LD

"The wheels of justice grind slow but they grind fine"

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Contacting The Investigation Officer and Team

I have returned to find many messages asking for contact with the IO and team. Happy to do this after vetting. Please contact SAFraudInvestigations@gmail.com fao Stan Schoeman. Provide a brief background and full contact details for us to submit to the IO in a standardised manner.

Another 6 elderly victims all local to Centurion have come to light:
L Bester Pension R300,000.00
H Adendorf Third Party payment R800,000.00
R Fourie retired R1000,000.00
A Bestbier retired R500,000.00
D Fourie deceased fathers legacy R500,000.00

and one more main victim from overseas form retired elderly pensioner - R8,500.000.00 Brother of Dr DS Grieve.

Any other victims or family, now is the time, make contact. Things are moving fast.

Stan Schoeman safraudinvestigations@gmail.com

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Die Beeld newspaper front page headlines - 13 March 2012.
"Dokter bedrieg glo talle"
"Doctor believed to have deceived many".

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Dokter-bedrieg-glo-talle-20120312

[Dave A]

According to that report I see the Hawks are taking a close look at things...

Something probably worth mentioning at this point - A little while ago I got sight of a report (forget where just at the moment), and the one thing I didn't realise up until then was that the house of cards collapsed so shortly after Bill Grieves made a fairly substantial investment. Just a couple of months or thereabouts. No wonder he's so p*ssed off!

Although I'm also a little surprised a person of his background got suckered like that. Surely at that point the writing was on the wall

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve Fraud

I believe I also read that report. His brother was quietly retired due to ill health and then Dr DS Grieve convinced him less than 6 months before he liquidated that all was super well. Convinced him to withdraw all his bank guaranteed retirement funds and even convinced him to take a mortgage on his retirement property. Believing in his younger brother, a respected medical professional, GIBS MBA graduate and successful (on OPM only though) businessman, Grieve snr put his faith and trust and belief in this man after checking the business out and examining the principles and processes in place, and calling the auditor and the NCR. Checking out the business with other investors and even Dr DS Grieve's close family. But knowingly and deceitfully Dr DS Grieve and his wife had covered up all the real facts, the business distress and chaos, supported by their accounts lady (their sister in law) Ina Papenfus and brother in-law Andre Botha, they successfully created a labyrinth of elaborate deception causing the old man to part with his money. Out of all his investors and creditors Dr DS Grieve reserved special treacherous treatment for his brother. Talk about the ultimate kick in the head. Deceit is like falling asleep at the steering wheel. You don't know you have fallen asleep until you wake up. Normally after the impact. Dr DS Grieve never said a single word to his brother about problems instead reassuring him daily all was well in the business. Overseas, from his brother, this was taken as gospel. His brother totally reliant on Dr DS Grieve's honesty integrity and the fact that they were brothers. What his brother overseas did not know and what bank statements I have seen prove is that Dr DS Grieve stole his brothers retirement money in bulk to his own private accounts to fund a wealthy lifestyle without "investing" a single cent. And that is theft. Grieve also left his own mother to die on a deserted plot in Randfontein trying to isolate her from internet reports and discussions on what he had done. She died alone, impoverished, unhappy and isolated late last year leaving the minimal residue of her miserable life to Grieve's ex wife in Pretoria, a registered nurse, and to Grieve's brother overseas as a token of the contempt she held for her son Dr DS Grieve.
Yes - a dirty dirty dirty thing to have done to his brother, but what makes it worse is that Dr DS Grieve left his own brother dying in a foreign hospital as a result of the stress and anxiety he had caused with these words "talk to my lawyer" and never even followed up to see if his brother far away and alone lived or died. Just took everything he had and cast him to the winds of fate. By any measure - that is unbelievably callous, cruel and ice cold.
Dr DS Grieve has to look at himself everyday and live with his conscience.

Brotherly deception is nothing new, it is as old as the bible.

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve

Another article in Die Beeld national newspaper Thursday 22 March 2012 Page 6

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve Fraud

News head lines in one place.

12 March front page and news stand billboards:-

"Dokter bedrieg glo talle" - "Doctor believed to have deceived many"


22 March news headline

"Huis opgeveil van arts wat glo steel, bedrieg" - "House auctioned of surgeon believed to steal and deceive"

Full colour pic to be inserted courtesy of Die Beeld Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet

[Asterix]

Dr DS Grieve Fraud

News head lines in one place.

12 March front page and news stand billboards:-

"Dokter bedrieg glo talle" - "Doctor believed to have deceived many"

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Dokter-bedrieg-glo-talle-20120312

22 March news headline

"Huis opgeveil van arts wat glo steel, bedrieg" - "House auctioned of surgeon believed to steal and deceive"

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuu...drieg-20120321

Full colour pic to be inserted courtesy of Die Beeld Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet

Courtesy of Die Beeld

Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve Fraud

An interesting victim of the Dr DS Grieve fraud/Ponzi scheme has surfaced. I was recently steered to this site which hosts an "In Memory Of" page for well known military and aviation old boyshttp://www.flyafrica.info/forums/sho...ourie-HC/page2

It seems in addition to others Dr DS Grieve defrauded the surviving family of the late Colonel Dawie Fourie Honoris Crux, Special Forces AFTER he died and Dr DS Grieve and his wife Sanet Grieve (Botha) had convinced them to part with their legacy and inheritance.
Dr DS Grieve had solicited substantial funds in August 2009, just before liquidating in December 2009. As if this family did not have enough misfortune and emotional drama to deal with.

There is some very interesting information on this page worth looking at.......

Is that the ominous clank of jail cell doors I hear in the background......I will never understand the crookedness and dishonest of a well paid professional.

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve Fraud

The head of the South African Corporate Fraud Management Institute has made a formal submission to the SAPS concerning this matter. Mr Bart Henderson of Cape Town whose recent assignments include delivering anti-money laundering training to the Zimbabwe Revenue Authority on contract to the Australian Government Aid Program (AusAid) and a previously completed contract to investigate fraud and corruption in the procurement process of the South African Companies and Intellectual Property Commission on behalf of the Department of Trade and Industry stated in his formal submission to the SAPS that he has an intimate familiarity with all the documents, statements, investigations (civil and criminal) and legal proceedings in South Africa in relation to the matter of Dr DS Grieve Bridging Solutions (Pty) Ltd. He has stated additionally that:-

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13. "It is my view that Dr DS Grieve with willful intent, made a material representation in the form of a significant omission, with intent to deceive….

14. It is also my contention that the entire prejudice suffered in this scam between local and transnational victims exceeds US$ 5 million.

15. I also suspect based on convincing evidence and representations, that the scam involves numerous parties operating in concert and that this particular scam meets the requirements of the definitions of Fraud, Embezzlement, Organized and Trans National Crime involving the laundering of the proceeds of crime". /...

based on the statement of this national fraud expert alone, a prima-facie case of fraud is substantiated for the SAPS investigation. Mr. Ron McQuilter of Paragon Private Investigations NZ, Justice of The Peace, CFE, International Fraud Expert and accepted High Court expert on fraud has added his opinion to the melee calling in a public statement to the head of the SAPS CCU in writing for the immediate criminal prosecution of Dr DS Grieve by the SAPS CCU and the NPA.

That, combined with almost 28000 views of this thread, front page headlines in Die Beeld and what can only be termed a public outcry on the internet, leaves no doubts that there is good cause for the creditors who have cried foul and fraud. The absence of comment by Dr DS Grieve is a tacit admission as to his actions in the lead up to liquidation proceedings. The facts that have surfaced show that the entire liquidation was caused by the intentional actions of the Director who purposefully placed the business he was charged with directing an running into distress and insolvency by removing all the operating capital belonging to investors and creditors to his private accounts, an act described by Bart Henderson as fraud and embezzlement.

[Dave A]

The facts that have surfaced show that the entire liquidation was caused by the intentional actions of the Director who purposefully placed the business he was charged with directing an running into distress and insolvency by removing all the operating capital belonging to investors and creditors to his private accounts[/B]

Well now, that is quite clearly where the rubber would meet the road.
There is hard evidence of this? Or is this merely alleged?

[Lawyer Destroyer]

Dr DS Grieve fraud

Based on exact hard evidence - the actual bank statements of the business accounts for Dr DS Grieve Bridging Solutions Pty Ltd as seen personally by me. These show transfer after transfer of bulk investors funds to Dr DS Grieve "private" account with Standard Bank, never to be seen by the investors or business again. Clank clank, mandatory sentencing for fraud over R1 million is 15 years in jail.

[flaker]

Our local papers (Durban) still dwell on Shaikh, who had only a "symbiotic relationship",as opposed to corrupt,with our now president. Why is this Grieve saga taking so long to get to the courts?