Big pharma's 'satanic' plot is genocide

[adrianh]

I believe the IP should only last 3years in pharma. This will bring more players into the fold. Competition will bring the price down and improve the quality of products available.



An ADHD friendly diet has been found to reduce the symptoms of ADHD to some degree in many people. In some cases a simple diet change removes all symptoms of ADHD.
Aside from diet, therapy may also help, especially cognitive and behavioural therapy.

Also have a look at the following, it includes some sound explanations and alternative treatments.
http://www.additudemag.com/asset/1383.pdf

Interesting....but it does not repair faulty wiring.

[pmbguy]

Interesting....but it does not repair faulty wiring.

Diet can’t “cure” ADHD aka “loose wiring”, nothing can. What it can do is relieve symptoms. In some cases enough for the symptoms not to interfere with functioning/behaviour, replacing the need for medication. (The effects of diet on ADHD will vary greatly from one person to the next)

[adrianh]

Yea, I'm sure that it does help some people. Many things like caffeine etc. make it worse.

[Dave A]

One of the problems I'm having with the Minister's view is I'm pretty familiar with an industry not too dissimilar to the pharmaceutical industry, the pesticides industry. And if pharmaceuticals have to go through anything like what "agricultural remedies" have to go through to get registered for use locally (let alone anywhere else), it wouldn't hurt for government to take a long, hard look in the mirror before they start casting stones.

I believe the IP should only last 3years in pharma.

How long does it take to develop a product?
How long does it take to get it to market once the IP is registered?

These products have to navigate trials and incredible red tape that takes years out of that IP window.
Then that fat submission sits on some bureaucrat's desk for another year or more (I've heard reports of four years and more awaiting approval locally).

We're talking massive capital outlay looking for a needle in a haystack, followed by massive investment in trials, documentation etc., followed by massive regulatory submission fees, massive delays before a single cent is earned, and all of this capital investment which might not yield a single cent if the product is declined.

And how much has our government, such a knowledgeable and shining light in issues of morality, so keenly sensitive to and abhorrent of abuse of position, invested to this point?

Oh, I could rant on....

[adrianh]

I rest my case.

Wha ha ha ha ... and then you carry right on waffling....

[Trickzta]

Wha ha ha ha ... and then you carry right on waffling....

The case & reply are not connected at all, but interesting theory.

[tec0]

I have 3 sons, one of my boys had a short attention span in Primary School.

A stimulant would have improved this condition but here's the sting in the tail.

The stimulant is treating the symptom, a long term form of treatment that keeps Big Pharma smiling.

in your own words "I rest my case"

Just as a side note; medication is suppose to treat the symptom... If someone anyone is willing to let a child suffer then honestly the big red light just started to flash.

That is a real cause for concern.



if it was up to me "but it is not" I would remove you and your threads alongside your post from this forum. But thankfully for you this forum has a good Admin team.

[Trickzta]

Tec0, my son did not suffer at all, and is well pleased that he never got medicated on this and on another occasion, this time for those potent chemicals that pmguy correctly said changed/damaged your brain, but that’s a story for another day.
This is what Big Pharma is all about. The FDA is complicit in this criminal activity.
But in 2009, the same year Adderall XR went off patent
(and two years before Concerta, a time-release version of Ritalin went off patent
) a study in theAmerican Journal of Psychiatryfound the drugs were actually killing kids. There was "A significant association of stimulant use with sudden unexplained death emerged from the primary analysis," wrote the authors who looked at 564 cases of sudden death in children 7 to 19. Pro-stimulant Pharma doctors disputed the study, saying the drugs might spare users death by improving their driving skills . Why didn't anybody test that?

http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/7-drugs-whose-dangerous-risks-emerged-only-after-big-pharma-made-its-money

While Merck marketed Singulair, which comes in a cherry-flavored chewable formulation, to parents with slogans like "Singulair is made with kids in mind," Fox TV and over 200 parents on the website askapatient reported that children on Singulair exhibited altered moods, depression and ADHD, hyperkinesis and suicidal symptoms.

http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/6-drugs-whose-dangerous-risks-were-buried-so-big-pharma-could-make-money?akid=11416.1085900.aolQGy&rd=1&src=newsletter948524&t=11

Jail time for selling herbs that helped cancer patients!

http://www.naturalnews.com/043598_cancer_cures_criminalization_Interpol.html#ixzz2r3PCAChg

Biotech giants sue Hawaiian island for passing legislation to restrict GMOs

http://www.naturalnews.com/043600_Monsanto_Hawaiian_island_GMO_legislation.html##ixzz2r6ryxPWI

The irony of the industry claiming that its rights are somehow being violated by Measure 2491, which is set to take effect in August, is that these same chemical companies have never had to prove the safety of their chemical solutions to regulators.

http://www.naturalnews.com/043600_Monsanto_Hawaiian_island_GMO_legislation.html##ixzz2r6tnSunz

[adrianh]

So tricky, where do you live in the US?

[pmbguy]

@Dave A - Fair enough. You right, pharma needs the IP for that long to cover cost, time. (Maybe we can knock off one year)

I still maintain that more competition is needed. I believe there is disproportionate competition in the market leading to high prices.

Competition should be brought in appropriately without destroying the market.

One long-term benefit of having more competition is having an increased rate in the development of new and different drugs. Competition creates divergent specialities, more ground-up thinking. Capacity to develop will rise in internationally.

More competition, in this case, can only be achieved through careful legislation change. Cheaper prices make allot of sense to those governments who give away allot of free drugs.


...............(long story)..................humanity benefits

[Citizen X]

"I am not using strong words; I am using appropriate words. This is genocide," Motsoaledi told the Mail & Guardian on Thursday, in response to a plan he described as a conspiracy of "satanic magnitude" – a plan he called on all South Africans to fight "to the last drop of their blood".[1]

Motsoaledi was angered by the PAE's strategy, outlined in a document seen by the newspaper and his department.

"This document can sentence many South Africans to death," he was quoted as saying.
"That is no exaggeration. This is a plan for genocide."[2]

My two cents: Except for the ‘Satanic plot,’ I agree with Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi. He is exactly right. The poor are being held to ransom by pharmaceutical companies.

All medicine is too costly. It needn’t be this way.


I know the emphasis is on HIV and cancer drugs. I suffer from chronic sinusitis and hayfever. The medication that I really require costs R700 per month and one requires a script for it. The implication is that one needs to visit a doctor, pay a consultation fee of R350 and have R700 readily available for the pharmacist. In effect, to go this route I’ll require R1050 every single month which I simply can’t afford. I’m forced to use cheap over the counter medicines which are hugely ineffective.

The Minister of Health should do whatever is necessary to curb the cost of all medication.


@Adrian, the advice you gave me some time back about a combination of salt, water and bicarb, has really helped me a lot. THANK YOU

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[1] Mail & Gaurdian: http://mg.co.za/article/2014-01-16-m...ot-is-genocide. Accessed 22 January 2014

[2] Sunday Times +:http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/...ug-patent-plot. Accessed 22 January 2014

[AndyD]

In the interest of keeping this interesting debate on topic I've moved about a dozen posts that were entirely or mostly about conspiracy theories or NWO related issues to this more relevant thread;

http://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/showthread.php/16066-NWO-has-SA-in-its-sights-%28part-1%29/

[tec0]

Thing is with medication it touches everyone from the low end to high end consumer. Fact is all of us have the need for some type of medication in order to live longer without pain and allow us some ability to function.

Medication is not your standard product. Yes research and development is key to success and yes if you fabricate the medication you want your money. That said if millions of people are already your customers and you are not making money then there is something amiss. Simple math shows that it is almost impossible not to make money.

See in this industry there must be a form of ethic and if there is no ethic then people will die simply because they couldn’t afford the high price of medication. The moment we step into this mindset “if you can’t afford it you die” then there is no need for government or the UN or any institution at all then as humans we lost the plot.

[Justloadit]

What about this Google Scientists Create Contact Lens to Measure Blood Sugar Levels in Tears

Is this the beginning of getting tagged?

[adrianh]

Medicine is doing as much damage to the human race as good. We are keeping people alive longer and we are also allowing people who would not have survived to lead meaningless lives. We are also stopping any form of evolution because we simply call them "abnormalities" and get rid of them.

As far as I am concerned there is no point in curing the whole of Africa of Aids & TB and what not. All that's going to happen is that they are going to continue to breed like flies and die from hunger anyway.

We should produce less offspring and better quality offspring. Families shouldn't be allowed to have more than two kids.

I feel nothing, there is no rule that says that the world owes the poor....the poor should learn to have less babies, even better, no babies, so that they can bring a halt to the notion of "poor"

It should work like it does at the SPCA. It's simple math, will it cost more to keep the dog alive than to put it down...do the math and you get the answer....If the dog has a rich master, well then its lucky, if not...then its off to the wrong side of the dirt.

The world is full of lazy-asses who feel that the world owes them, well stuff that, the world including big pharma owes you nothing....you pay you live...otherwise you die...tough titty!