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  • Mariana
    Email problem

    • Sep 2012
    • 55

    #121
    You must design websites then.... if you look at the numbers you will see it exceeds your best site....its only a matter of intellectual capacity!

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    • Mariana
      Email problem

      • Sep 2012
      • 55

      #122
      Vanash,

      Lets do it again, step by step so all the dummies can come right!!!! Answer DO YOU NOW ANY CAR DEALER WHO WILL GIVE YOU A CAR FOR FREE......ANSWER.....
      I Am waiting Vanash

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      • Citizen X
        Diamond Member

        • Sep 2011
        • 3411

        #123
        Originally posted by tec0
        care to explain?
        Mariana, the problem and challenge here is simply one of credibilty! I've come to know and trust the information that Tec0 provides, acknowledging that he does so in our best interest! He has come across as far more credible than you! This is just my opinion! You not challenging his assertions in the correct manner! Bare denial is not sufficient, you need to clarify further! I think you should try in earnest to restore your credibility. You state that you have provided TFSA with a statement alternatively press release altrenatively right of reply; why not simply post that right of reply here for us all to see? We will then make up our own minds as individuals. I just think that you doing more harm to your business than good by virtue of how you respond to allegations, assertions alternatively issues in dispute...
        “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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        • Scaffold
          Email problem

          • Nov 2011
          • 90

          #124
          Yes, my uncle Jimmy would. He is a real nice guy.

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          • Citizen X
            Diamond Member

            • Sep 2011
            • 3411

            #125
            Originally posted by Mariana
            Vanash,

            Lets do it again, step by step so all the dummies can come right!!!! Answer DO YOU NOW ANY CAR DEALER WHO WILL GIVE YOU A CAR FOR FREE......ANSWER.....
            I Am waiting Vanash
            Mariana, I accept that you not running a charity! Like anyone else you simply want to maximise your profitability. There's nothing wrong with this. It's how you dealing with the fallout, the public relations aspect that's in issue. Might I suggest that you focus on issues which are still in dispute and further that you try and win hearts and minds.
            “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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            • KimH
              Email problem

              • Jul 2010
              • 362

              #126
              Originally posted by Scaffold
              Yes, my uncle Jimmy would. He is a real nice guy.
              Would that be Jimmy "fingers" from Jersey?
              "If at first you don't succeed, do it like your mother told you."

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              • Citizen X
                Diamond Member

                • Sep 2011
                • 3411

                #127
                Originally posted by Mariana
                You must design websites then.... if you look at the numbers you will see it exceeds your best site....its only a matter of intellectual capacity!
                Mariana, you in business right? When someone gives you feedback, take that as an opportunity. Here you should have simply asked:" What practical advice do you have to improve my website? How would you have gone about the homepage side of my business? Mariana, this is what many of the mebers do right herer in real time, we in essence ask each other for feedback with a view to improving standards etc..
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                • SilverNodashi
                  Platinum Member

                  • May 2007
                  • 1197

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Mariana
                  You must design websites then.... if you look at the numbers you will see it exceeds your best site....its only a matter of intellectual capacity!
                  Mariana, stooping down to your level so that you can understand: Any business owner who's made a success of their business (this is a business orientated forum, by the way) through a website will tell you that your website doesn't sell anything decent. Just about any student and most kids will also tell you that your website needs a lot of attention.

                  You're trying to sell a concept, or product and happened to have come across a tough community who sees through the "falsified sales pitch", but who can also give you business advice (something you lack, otherwise you wouldn't have wasted your time with a scheme which no-one else has heard of, or have approved) but instead you belittle everyone else. This also shows of your character, and I pity the fool who would even consider doing business with you on these merits.
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                  • tec0
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4624

                    #129
                    Right this is where I stop. Not much more can be done on our side when it comes to investigations and the like thus I think it is time to get the right entities involved. I do know however if you borrow money at the bank they expect you to pay them back. If you do an overdraft at the bank they expect you to pay them back. Same is true with any home loan, car loan, student loan and private loan.

                    Regardless of any claims made is a fact that a legally binding contract exist between the customer making the loan and bank. So anything suggesting that you break the contract “unlawfully” must be fully investigated by the entities.
                    peace is a state of mind
                    Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                    • Scaffold
                      Email problem

                      • Nov 2011
                      • 90

                      #130
                      Originally posted by KimH
                      Would that be Jimmy "fingers" from Jersey?
                      Yes!!! Do you know my uncle? He said he makes all his money from the Wiseman Concept and thats why he can give me a car for free. Hes such a clever man.

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                      • KimH
                        Email problem

                        • Jul 2010
                        • 362

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Scaffold
                        Yes!!! Do you know my uncle? He said he makes all his money from the Wiseman Concept and thats why he can give me a car for free. Hes such a clever man.
                        That's the same guy,... the car he gave me was a lemon by the way - ended up costing me a small fortune!
                        "If at first you don't succeed, do it like your mother told you."

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                        • vieome
                          Email problem

                          • Apr 2012
                          • 540

                          #132
                          Originally posted by KimH
                          That's the same guy,... the car he gave me was a lemon by the way - ended up costing me a small fortune!
                          I bought a blimp from him a few years ago and it requires a special gas that I cant find anywhere, though he promised me it was available at all fuel stations.

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                          • Scaffold
                            Email problem

                            • Nov 2011
                            • 90

                            #133
                            Ya, the gas is available at all stations provided you bring the right equipment to transform the petrol to gas. He is so clever.

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                            • vieome
                              Email problem

                              • Apr 2012
                              • 540

                              #134
                              That is what the singing and dancing petrol attendant told me, but in order to get the equipment I was going to have to sign a foolishman concept contract which I declined, so at the moment I am just using a kite to fly the blimp.

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                              • Dave A
                                Site Caretaker

                                • May 2006
                                • 22803

                                #135
                                Time to pick the bones out of these numbers

                                Originally posted by Mariana
                                Ok...here comes my side of the story:
                                What I am about to show you is not "Wiseman Concept" but to prove to you that "ZERO" does exist!
                                This is not more than 14 year old mathematics, however the "Wiseman Concept" has been proved 5 x better than the "zero" formula!

                                The old system:
                                PLAN A ......A husband and wife saves over 4 years R 150 000 to buy a car for their son.
                                Currently awaiting the driver licence fiasco they invested the money with Allan Grey @ 10% per year ( Lets talk round figures ) earning R 1250 pm interest.

                                PLAN B ......A friend with very little financial sense suggest that they leave the R 150 000 in the bank and rather borrow R 150 000 @ 13.2% per year for 20 years.
                                This friend with little knowledge about anything was treated like an idiot because he suggested to pay R 1650 pm for 240 months and 3,2% more interest! Shame!

                                EVERY ONE CHOOSE A:
                                Why? Because it look cheaper!
                                What you are about to see is that the person choosing (A - cheaper plan ) think with his eyes and ears and not with his brain - many years will result in no brains and bigger eyes and ears, unfortunately the person choosing ( A ) lost R 240 000 in 7 years by listening to his eyes and ears!
                                So let's take a look at how Plan B works then.

                                Step 1:
                                Invest at 10% interest and use the interest to subsidise your instalments.

                                Step 2:
                                Take a 20 year bond at 13.2% and apply the extra interest to reduce the bond term. This is the result:

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                                Out of interests sake, I looked at what would happen if we just financed this car over 6 years - and guess what:

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                                Near as dammit the same instalment. So let's not muck around with the "extra payment = shorter term" stuff - it doesn't change how much money you have to chip in yourself, which is pretty much R1777 per month.

                                So at the end of 6 years on Plan B you've got a paid up car and R150 000.00 invested somewhere earning you 10% interest per annum.

                                Now let's look at Plan A.

                                Step 1:
                                Buy the car cash with your R150k savings.

                                Step 2:
                                Invest R1777 per month for a return of 10% per annum, and don't touch the interest. Guess how much you've got after 6 years:

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                                That's right, folks - you've now got a car and R177 344.00 invested somewhere earning you 10% interest per annum.

                                Plan B lost you R27 344.00 compared to plan A.

                                And you probably had to pay for the Wiseman Telescopic Calculator's assistance to help you do it
                                Last edited by Dave A; 25-Oct-12, 08:21 PM. Reason: typo
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