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  • Ayjay
    New Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1

    #1

    Wiseman concept scam

    I see there have been some posts about Wiseman Concept. Please be advised that it is a scam and stay away Google wisman concept and the word scam to get more info.
  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22803

    #2
    I see it previously came up on TFSA here - and it certainly did look suspect.

    Has any new info come to light since?
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    • Mariana
      Email problem

      • Sep 2012
      • 55

      #3
      Not all people are "dummies" - thousands of people have been helped by the "Wiseman Concept.

      To get the correct information please contact the owner and designer of the Wiseman Telescopic Calculator. The owners name is Willem Botha and his sell number is 076 489 7473.

      Please read the website www.wisemanconcept.mobi FAQ from 300 CA's, Actuaries, Estate agents, Bankers and Financial Advisers and the shocking results that "EVERYONE BADMOUTHING THE WISEMAN CONCEPT" is actualy the biggest scammers.

      Let me give you a piece of the future , and how business will be run 5 years from today. Two options on all contract or purchase agreements will be mandadatory to all sales documentation where the client must sign for the information received:
      1.) The normal way to buy where the purchaser will lose most of his investment e.g a car losing value after a certain time.
      2.) The "Wiseman Telescopic Calculator" way where the purchaser will pay zero ( R 0.00 ) for the car. This system has already been proved successful in 2347 clients.

      If the seller fails to notify the buyer, the buyer will be able to sue the seller for his loss:

      Why do you think that there is only 4 unsubstanciated complaints on the "Wiseman Concept" in 15 years, whilst each major bank has 300 and more complaints in six months.

      How can the writer of the "WARNING" article say "IT IS DEFINATELY A SCAM"
      Has this writer of the conjecture and untruth realy think they will get away with this?

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      • AndyD
        Diamond Member

        • Jan 2010
        • 4946

        #4
        That's a world class website you've linked to Mariana.

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        • Dave A
          Site Caretaker

          • May 2006
          • 22803

          #5
          I'm just so impressed with the subtext

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          Yep - this guy certainly has a grip on things that I fail to follow.
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          • adrianh
            Diamond Member

            • Mar 2010
            • 6328

            #6
            Ok, so what exactly is "The Wiseman Concept"....without all the fluff...just the bottom line?

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22803

              #7
              Originally posted by adrianh
              Ok, so what exactly is "The Wiseman Concept"....without all the fluff...just the bottom line?
              I'll second that question!

              All I see is fluff and no substance.
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              • Citizen X
                Diamond Member

                • Sep 2011
                • 3411

                #8
                Originally posted by Mariana
                Not all people are "dummies" - thousands of people have been helped by the "Wiseman Concept.

                To get the correct information please contact the owner and designer of the Wiseman Telescopic Calculator. The owners name is Willem Botha and his sell number is 076 489 7473.

                Please read the website www.wisemanconcept.mobi FAQ from 300 CA's, Actuaries, Estate agents, Bankers and Financial Advisers and the shocking results that "EVERYONE BADMOUTHING THE WISEMAN CONCEPT" is actualy the biggest scammers.

                Let me give you a piece of the future , and how business will be run 5 years from today. Two options on all contract or purchase agreements will be mandadatory to all sales documentation where the client must sign for the information received:
                1.) The normal way to buy where the purchaser will lose most of his investment e.g a car losing value after a certain time.
                2.) The "Wiseman Telescopic Calculator" way where the purchaser will pay zero ( R 0.00 ) for the car. This system has already been proved successful in 2347 clients.

                If the seller fails to notify the buyer, the buyer will be able to sue the seller for his loss:

                Why do you think that there is only 4 unsubstanciated complaints on the "Wiseman Concept" in 15 years, whilst each major bank has 300 and more complaints in six months.

                How can the writer of the "WARNING" article say "IT IS DEFINATELY A SCAM"
                Has this writer of the conjecture and untruth realy think they will get away with this?
                NOT INTERESTED!!!NO THANKYOU! BYE BYE
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                • adrianh
                  Diamond Member

                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6328

                  #9
                  @Mariana - please explain what it is exactly that you do - I'm open minded so I'd like to hear what you have to say.

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                  • wynn
                    Diamond Member

                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3338

                    #10
                    Yep me too, give us a synopsis of what happens?
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                    • Citizen X
                      Diamond Member

                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3411

                      #11
                      Why not, please indulge us here Mariana? You have a right to reply! Tell us your version of events, I give you my word as a gentleman, I will hear you out! There's two sides to a story, what is yours?
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                      • AndyD
                        Diamond Member

                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4946

                        #12
                        Ignore the cynics Mariana, I see a system that thinks outside the box, a system whose complex facade is merely an opaque veneer shading a simplicity so stark it has abstract beauty beyone the boundaries of the numbers. Mariana, you make the explaination as fluffy as you feel necessary, I like fluff.
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                        • Chrisjan B
                          Gold Member

                          • Dec 2007
                          • 610

                          #13
                          Geez Andy one need a Doctorate in Whatever to decipher your above comment...

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                          • Citizen X
                            Diamond Member

                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3411

                            #14
                            Mariana, you killing me here! Please oblige us??
                            “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
                            Spelling mistakes and/or typographical errors I found in leading publications.
                            Click here
                            "Without prejudice and all rights reserved"

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                            • pieksie
                              Full Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 26

                              #15
                              Hi everyone! This is definitly a scam. I've been in contact with them over email and wanted to find out how it works but all I get is that I should not even try to understand it! What stupid response is that?? And then it even gets more ridiculous, he compares the business to KFC by saying the following. Sorry I am just coping and pasting so it is in Afrikaans:

                              Het jy al "Kentucky Fried Chicken" geeet ?

                              Ja, verseker moes jy al, jy eet lekker en jy lek jou lippe en jou vingers af, maar jy kan vra nie hoe dit werk nie! Hulle het n resep soos "Wiseman Concept" n resep het wat enig van sy soort in die wereld is, hoekom moet ek jou vertel hoe dit werk as ek dan my deur emoet sluit?




                              Jy koop die "Kentucky" en jy eet dit na jy betaal het daarvoor!

                              Jy koop "Wiseman Kentucky" en jy eet dit en jy betaal nie daarvoor nie , dis mos nou "nice"!

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