Wiseman concept scam

[tec0]

Ok...here comes my side of the story:
What I am about to show you is not "Wiseman Concept" but to prove to you that "ZERO" does exist!
This is not more than 14 year old mathematics, however the "Wiseman Concept" has been proved 5 x better than the "zero" formula!

Some time ago there was this door to door sales person that tried to take me for a ride. The only reason why I let her in was because she was a young female and it was late at night. Our aria is classified as a red zone by our local police “high crime aria” My family and I feared for her safety. Hindsight would show she used this fact against us.

I nearly ended up buying some stupid device to help with my mother’s medical condition. After dropping the girl at her friend’s car I came home and did a search on the device. Turns out to be a load of crap… But the contract was a bigger load of crap!!! I ended up having to go to the consumer council and open a case against the company.

I had so much crap to deal with that I lost money “because while I was dealing with the crap I wasn’t working” In the end the Judge made a ruling in my favour. Case closed.

Now this dude comes along assuming we will believe every single word that comes out of her/his mouth? That said I use to be a very trusting person. Lately I became a total a$$hole thanks to people that wants to steal my money and not earn it.

Thank you but fuck you! You have no right to insult anyone here, if you are a spokesperson for the company with this type of condescending attitude you can take your concept and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Thanks to a$$holes like you I became “subhuman” living in a world without trust.

You have no honour, you have no substance... Now please take a drive and get lost!

[Citizen X]

Personally I just leave people who think they're winning the argument by insulting others to shoot themselves in the foot.

Dave, I think when it comes to this particular thread, you put on your 'Jerry Springer,' cap

[Mariana]

You see, that is what I mean, you can say what ever you like without substance, total conjecture and hearsay....you are the one insulting the greatest system ever designed, and when I reply you call that insulting........why don't you show your face for a meeting and then apologize for your rude behavior...........after the meeting you will apologize and then we deter-main the financial damage you caused and see if you got something to rectify your damage...........I challenge you, i bet you you do not have the guts because you are only an empty drum .....

[Mariana]

That would be very cool!
You shot yourself in the foot mate!
If did not you would set up a meeting and get your head to work properly!
It is a proven fact, that if you pay for your car for 60 months and your value depreciated with 70% you lost on a R 200 000 car R 140 000.
If you did not make use of the "Wiseman Concept" where you would pay zero for the same car, you actually stole R 200 000 from your family and yourself!
10 years from now you could go to jail for this.

Do you read your newspapers? did you see that discovery is pay 50% of your petrol bill, did you see FNB pay 15% of your petrol bill, did you see Standard bank has R 0.00 payments.............if you did not, that is the problem, you know nothing from the world around you. Comments from these people are treated as being dummy"s and not taken up seriously. Do you think all internet users don't have brains, they are very clever and ignore insults from you and those like you!

[Mariana]

As jy my beledig as n scam, moet ek stilbly en toelaat dat iemand so oningelig soos jy onaangeraak bly! Jy is n "dreamer" en leef in n "fantacy world" van jou eie.
Iets sinvols is dat jy moet hou by die scam waarin jy leef en as ek dit reg het, en jy het jou budget vir my getsuur onder n ander vals naam, want ek het net vir een persoon van die "Kentucky resep" vertel.....................jy is reeds "down and out" ..................hoe kan jy hulp vra as jy so beledigend is. As jy n eiendom gehad het met equity ( wat jy nie het nie ) sou ek hom gevat het, vir skade vergoeding. Daar is nie pille vir domgeit nie!................en ek beledig jou nie, ek antwoord net jou post!

[Citizen X]

Mariana, for a potantial defamation suit, you will firstly require such form of infringement of rights; your second hurdle will be the obvious, many individuals on TFSA and rightfully so go by aliases; thirdly, I don't think you've considered the knock off effect of any litigation i.e. investigative journalists begging the public for a new story and last but certainly not least, since the law allows me to defend myself, I will only to be happy to personally engage you. On this pleasant note, I will enter an apperance, my plea will have merits with a counterclaim. Now ordinarily you would rightfully think that you would then by way of pleadings deliver a plea in reconvention. I wouldn't blame you! But not so, you will in effect deliver a replication! Why, simply becuase my counterclaim will have new allegations you which you would then also have a right of reply. You do so to new allegations reaised in a defendants counterclaim via replication. Ideally since the quantum of damages is unliquidated, you sue out combined summons. Believe me you don't want to go this route! Court gives me a high!!!!! Think of it like this for what ever reason you have found yourself in the scam alert forum. Initially you were coming across as defensive but then you did start to explain yourself. I actually saw the human behind you! Don't mess this public opportunity of right of reply up! You can still clarify, simply say, look, I over reacted, I'm also someone who just wants to make it in life. I'm not robbing anyone. My clientele come of their own free will.Kinldy desist from unwarranted threats of litigation!
It can still end well, just show some humanity, show us that you just a typical human being trying to make it??

[Nigel Hamilton]

I just want to bring attention to some TFSA members to "Southern Africa’s mental health awareness initiative"

http://www.mentalhealthsa.co.za/

If i have posted in the wrong thread, then i apologise

[Mariana]

How else would you get your brain checked out ............not by bending before you!

[Mariana]

All the same for you...people responding like you...pse read your own comment and apply it twice to yourself!

[Mariana]

All good real good things had a entrance of ......"seems to good to be true"

[Citizen X]

All good real good things had a entrance of ......"seems to good to be true"

A he said, she said scenario! I love this!Mariana, help me to help you!!! Think of it another way, you were innocently walking by this road and somehow, you just happened upon the grave yard for businesses. Why, is irrelevant at this early stage. At this very early stage, you simply say, Why am I in this graveyard? I shouldn’t be here!! This is the place for those ‘professors,’ who never went to school, yet they professors and they claim to have a cure for hiv, aids and cancer and for good measure they’ll even give you the lotto numbers, for a small fee of-course.
Notwithstanding how or why you got here, you are still nonetheless here! Help me to help you get out of this grave? It’s simple: 1: How much do you charge for your service/product/concept? 2: How do clients procure your services?? 3: How do they pay you??? 4: Are you forthcoming with them about the prospects of the success of your product/service/concept?(I’ll give you a hint: If I tell you that I can get you the lotto numbers for R500 but I add that sometimes my ancestors are busy, they send the wrong numbers and this is at your own risk, and you agree; then if you don’t win the Lotto , you made an informed choice 5: Are you deliberately misleading anyone? 6: How do you handle complaints? And lastly for my own understanding why do you believe anyone will want to have a meeting with you???

[Mariana]

adrianh...are all of the critic's so thick to say "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT PIEKSIE"
Pieksie insulted the "Wiseman Concept and me by sayings it's a scam... how thick must she be by doing that, without any info, knowledge, or reason!
Why do everyone have to turn the other cheek when insulted ....do you know what it means when someone says it's "definitely a scam" without any investigation.
All the banks have more than 400 complaints in 6 months, the Wiseman Concept has zero complaints, the 4 complaints when searching Google are not claims and only self centered hollo conjecture like Pieksie's... and those supporting her, has the same level of intelligence.

[Mariana]

Why can't you say...sorry i have over reacted... you started it all!

[adrianh]

So Mariana, let me just make sure that you are qualified to speak about financial matters:

You graduated from Stellenbosch technical college in 1977 then you started a beauty salon in 2005.... (I take it you studied hairdressing at college - right?)

....ok, so how come you know more about finance than a chartered accountant?

....could it be because you are trying to pull the hair (sorry wool) over our eyes?

[Citizen X]

So Mariana, let me just make sure that you are qualified to speak about financial matters:

You graduated from Stellenbosch technical college in 1977 then you started a beauty salon in 2005.... (I take it you studied hairdressing at college - right?)

....ok, so how come you know more about finance than a chartered accountant?

....could it be because you are trying to pull the hair (sorry wool) over our eyes?

Mariana, I told you, you found yourself, for whatever reason, in a place noone really wants to be in! I can only speak for myself! I'll plead your case, if you bona fide, that is: Again, use the following as a guideline:
This is the place for those ‘professors,’ who never went to school, yet they professors and they claim to have a cure for hiv, aids and cancer and for good measure they’ll even give you the lotto numbers, for a small fee of-course.
Notwithstanding how or why you got here, you are still nonetheless here! Help me to help you get out of this grave? It’s simple: 1: How much do you charge for your service/product/concept? 2: How do clients procure your services?? 3: How do they pay you??? 4: Are you forthcoming with them about the prospects of the success of your product/service/concept?(I’ll give you a hint: If I tell you that I can get you the lotto numbers for R500 but I add that sometimes my ancestors are busy, they send the wrong numbers and this is at your own risk, and you agree; then if you don’t win the Lotto , you made an informed choice 5: Are you deliberately misleading anyone? 6: How do you handle complaints?