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Yep tend to keep quite because either way it is taken as wrong.
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here's my take on employment - the world owes you nothing, adapt or die. It is up to the individual to position themselves to make a living through the use of their skills. if the market does not require your skills for whatever reason then it is up to the individual to develop skills suitable for the market. If the market requires panel beaters then become one, if the market requires typists then become one, the world will not make space for you, you have to carve your own niche!Comment
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So my suspicion that all the comments posted are not what the respondents "really" would like to say is confirmed, as they are trying to be politically correct and am I correct in saying "their comments are not truthful.Comment
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Dave, appreciate your response. It just confirms that all is not well in the business arena. I would like to know where "honesty", "fairness", etc. is practiced/applied in the workplace. The fact that not many are prepared to ask or discuss these issues makes it difficult to address the problems in the workplace. Is it then sound practice/procedure to mention the race of an applicant after 20 years of "freedom" and for how long will we have to do this?Comment
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There wasn't honesty and "fairness" 25 years ago ... It was if you were white you got the job.Comment
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Adrian, I never once said that I wanted all to agree, but too see what the views are of others on the forum. I thought that this forum was a platform to discuss topics and in general understand the other person's views. All I am trying to bring across is that WE should not think that WE are correct and OTHERS are wrong. We are all entitled to our opinions and are those opinions actually what we believe in or are WE saying so to be either popular on the forum or try and be politically correct.
I never said the world was wrong but no-one gains to be an ostrich either and live in their own little world, the more people that participates in a constructive debate is healthy.
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Adrian, if my post was so "absurd" why comment?Comment
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No you didn't say so in so many words, but your responses show you don't like it if anyone disagrees with you.Adrian, I never once said that I wanted all to agree,
Here is a typical example - you did not like what Adrian said.
Adrian, if my post was so "absurd" why comment?Comment
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HR, a very "grown up" response from an "educated" person. It is great to see what others think I'm trying to say. I still say that not many have the balls to say what they feel or think. I get the feeling that this forum is not what it appears to be so I will most likely not post any further comments.
Sad, but once again it is only MY opinion.Comment
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Ok .... plenty of people have the "balls" to post on this forum ...... its the retaliation they don't like .....like your above ...
It started with possible employers (interviewers) not seeing your "point of view" and ends with the forum members not having the balls to say what they want to you ...... some similarities there or what .......... but anyway cheers hey ......Comment
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I do not agree with this statement. If you read the posts on this forum you will soon notice that we have a pretty mixed bunch here and not shy to speak our minds. yes, we do tend to be "politically correct" in order not to offend people. We can also stir it up if the situation calls for it and then (sometimes) have to apologize.
I have to agree with Adrian though; the world owes you nothing! You are the result of the choices you make in life. If you do not like your life, start making different choices. Yes, it is harder for white males to get jobs these days, just as we had job reservation under apartheid which made it harder for black people to get jobs. This should however, not deter you from making the most of what you can be. I know of many white and black people who have risen above their circumstances, be it poverty, lack of education, disabilities or whatever. The secret is not to place your future in someone else's hands, but to be master of your own destiny.
So many people sit and wait on the roadside for someone to pick them up and give them a job for the day. This is a total waste of time as you will only find a temporary job that no-one else wants. Educate yourself and acquire skills that you can sell. There is always a demand for skilled people. Never stop learning!Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...
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Blurock, I would love to meet you. I would like to show you what I have achieved in my life. I do not require a job from anyone as I have decided to start my own venture as I mentioned before. Yes, there was a time that I thought that I would have to work for a "Boss". You and I have shared some private mails & calls so you probably know me a little better than the rest.
It is not in my nature to boast but I can thankfully say that I do not owe anyone for my house, vehicles & motorcycles.
So, I have never waited for anyone in my life, but not everyone has the ability to be self employed. Have you ever spared a thought for those that are employed and those who can easily be left out in the cold.
I can see that so many that have commented on my threads have tried to "analyse" me and place me in a bracket or group that they think I fit into, All I can say is that you'll be surprised.Comment
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Just a quick reminder that we should be playing the ball and not the man, folks. I see some assumptions in play here that aren't helping any.Participation is voluntary.
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Jan - with all due respects but if I may ask and I ask this as a general question as if I am asking myself as well - Do other people really care what a person has achieved and do you think that people really analyse other people on a forum ? Or do they perhaps just comment on what they think about a thread that one posts ?Blurock, I would love to meet you. I would like to show you what I have achieved in my life
I can see that so many that have commented on my threads have tried to "analyse" me
The same goes for everyone on this forum - not many people know what other people have "achieved" or not achieved and at the end of the day they don't really care. And again I say this with respect - I do not mean it in a derogatory way at all. What one person has done or where they have travelled for example means absolutely nothing to the next person who might believe that their achievements are different and therefore better !
When it has come to some of your postings - opinions are given by people (including myself) - some of the opinions should be accepted because they have been given by qualified professional people etc etc. or by people that have extensive years experience in their field. Personally I try to stay away from giving an opinion where I know absolutely nothing about.Comment
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Blurock, great post that & that statement "NEVER stop learning" . In this age one is left with no alternative, & so when my kids (+mid twenties) say that they're tired of studying, i say to them that they're learning all the time without actually realising it.
Ever since we've had internet, i've used outlook express for e-mails, and after falling a victim to crime and having my computer stolen, & loosing all my old mails & having those b.....ds reading all, i've changed to a gmail account and learning new ways of using this (with some difficulty i must admit)
What i would like to learn most is how to laugh. I never watch a comedy movie, nor can i get myself to watch one.
Thank you,guys,for listening to my most mundane postComment
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