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  • HR Solutions
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    • Mar 2013
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    #16
    That is fantastic. How come you are battling to get a job then ?

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    • JanChris
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      • May 2014
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      #17
      Originally posted by HR Solutions
      That is fantastic. How come you are battling to get a job then ?
      As I said before, Maybe I am too honest, straight talking, more qualified than my interviewer, not a lap dog and I do not play the company politics game. I have decided to work for myself.

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      • HR Solutions
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        #18
        Oh ok I thought you were joking when you originally said that.

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        • JanChris
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          • May 2014
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          #19
          Originally posted by HR Solutions
          Oh ok I thought you were joking when you originally said that.
          My Good Man, I would like to know what your views are regarding being politically correct and other comments I made earlier. Enjoy your day.

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          • HR Solutions
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            #20
            Originally posted by JanChris
            My Good Man, I would like to know what your views are regarding being politically correct and other comments I made earlier. Enjoy your day.
            My views ...... I think you are totally wrong in the sense that there are no jobs out there ...... I have been in the Recruitment business for over 10 years and things have never looked better - there are jobs for the proper qualified people !

            But you know I have said that before and you disagree.

            You also know that I have also said that too many white boys between the age of 20-30 (which I know is not you) do not want to work and play the victim all the time.
            Too many people play the victim when they can't get a job and do not want to listen to advice from people that know. If you have the
            correct qualification and the right attitude there is work out there.

            But anyway - you and I will always agree to disagree on this point. I do think you would be shocked if you had to spend half a day with us and see how people do not pitch up for interviews, people who think they know better, people who think they can walk into a job with any attitude and think they are the company's saviour, people who will not travel more than 10km for an interview because they can't be bothered, people who think they don't need to start at the bottom and earn/work their way up ....... the stories continue.


            There was a guy on this forum a while ago who played the victim card at every opportunity. We kept on telling him to go out there and make it happen (I am not saying this is you) but you do need to make it happen.

            What are you qualified at Chris ? What do you do ?

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            • JanChris
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              • May 2014
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              #21
              HR, I have 25+ years production management experience with a national diploma in production and cost accounting (accredited), Production Management Diploma with PMISA. NOSA qualifications, certified in Employment Equity compliant recruitment and selection, artisan in the trade of welding, design my own machines, etc.

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              • HR Solutions
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                #22
                Just as a matter of interest - are they telling you diploma.s are not good enough ?

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                • JanChris
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                  • May 2014
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by HR Solutions
                  Just as a matter of interest - are they telling you diploma.s are not good enough ?
                  No, they do not. They usually respond by letter or e-mail that the position will either not be filled or I am "over" qualified, or they are seeking a "younger" person. All the info is available in my CV but why let me go for the interview if I do not have a chance of filling the position. I was told that some recruitment companies send many "candidates" of different races as this makes the agencies "look" good.

                  Just remember that not all applicants have degrees. I have worked with many such colleagues and they do need some assistance from time to time as they lack practical experience in the field.
                  But I've made peace with the situation and started my own venture.

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                  • HR Solutions
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                    #24
                    I was told that some recruitment companies send many "candidates" of different races as this makes the agencies "look" good.
                    We send 5 candidates to a client for a position, after interviewing ALL of them, therefore all will be suitable. The 5 are of different races and obviously you have
                    some stronger than others. It is not a matter of making us "look good" - it is a matter of - we give our client the choice to choose which candidate HE would like.
                    We are not looking good in anyones eyes. It is the correct way of doing things !

                    ust remember that not all applicants have degrees.
                    Of course not, but it is up to the client to decide who he wants and who is better suitable for the job.

                    But I've made peace with the situation and started my own venture.
                    I hope it works out for you

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                    • JanChris
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                      • May 2014
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by HR Solutions
                      We send 5 candidates to a client for a position, after interviewing ALL of them, therefore all will be suitable. The 5 are of different races and obviously you have
                      some stronger than others. It is not a matter of making us "look good" - it is a matter of - we give our client the choice to choose which candidate HE would like.
                      We are not looking good in anyones eyes. It is the correct way of doing things !



                      Of course not, but it is up to the client to decide who he wants and who is better suitable for the job.



                      I hope it works out for you
                      Thanks for the well wishes. I was informed by an agency that they send different races for an interview so that they look good. I am not saying that all do this.

                      But we all know, that all businesses do not always practice what they preach or claim to be.

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                      • JanChris
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                        • May 2014
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                        #26
                        HR, during our correspondence we have agreed to disagree as you commented. I would like to see other recruiting agencies comments. I wonder why you are the only one commenting.

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                        • JanChris
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                          • May 2014
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                          #27
                          Any comments regarding companies, directors being politically correct?

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                          • JanChris
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                            • May 2014
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                            #28
                            Someone who claims to be a victim are usually those who are waiting for hand outs (as many do) and are too lazy to change their life around.

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                            • JanChris
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                              • May 2014
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                              #29
                              It seems that the comments about being politically correct are not forthcoming. Wonder why?

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                              • Dave A
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by JanChris
                                Any comments regarding companies, directors being politically correct?
                                Originally posted by JanChris
                                It seems that the comments about being politically correct are not forthcoming. Wonder why?
                                Because at the moment companies and company directors are caught between a rock and a hard place.

                                Ordinarily companies and their representatives should not risk offending anyone. Part of that is to steer clear of politics and politically sensitive issues (i.e. preferably say nothing at all, and if you have to say something, be as politically correct as possible).

                                Gets a bit tricky when being politically correct can be offensive to some, though.
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