E-tolling or E Thief?

[Phil Cooper]

Don't know.

PART of the Court Case is that Buses and Taxis should NOT be exempt - user pays principle, and they are users....

[Citizen X]

All this feedback lends great perspective..

[IanF]

I feel buses and taxis should be free based on less congestion . But then we also need better public transport.

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

Re buses and taxis -
Clearly the thinking was that those using taxis and buses are mostly the lower earners and an attempt to keep costs down, a fair enough thought process.. It may also have been not to raise the ire of taxi commuters (but I dont think government expected such an outcry.), and probably a realisation that they have no control over this industry and collection was not going to happen.

However based on the R500 capping that equates to a standard (not overloaded) minibus of R25 a day or R1.50 a person) or R30 a month pe r person. Even at a salary of R3000-00 thats 1% whereas a car commuter on a salary of R8000-00 is looking at 6.25%, hardly fair, thats a substantial chunk of change.

[Phil Cooper]

Trouble is that to get an exemption, taxis must produce their registration / licence docs.

They cannot - the Guvmint is so far in arrears that guys who legitimately have submitted what is wanted are waiting 2 years ....

So they are now getting demands....

It had nothing to do with the poor! The taxis said if they had to pay they would wreck the places. And they will!

[Justloadit]

So how are the taxis doing it now?
Is SANRAL simply making a human based decision that a specific vehicle is a taxi, and simply flag it as a taxi?
Are the taxis registered as a taxi/public vehicle at the vehicle license department?
So what is the difference if you tell them that your Vito/mini bus is a taxi, and therefor exempt?

[IanF]

I wonder if any taxi owners have got etoll bills yet.
The arrogance been shown by sanral Vusi Mona called to resign reminds of Eskom and their handling of the power crisis. Humility is not a trait.

[Trickzta]

Maybe not news to all, some Political parties to submit complaints on the public's behalf.

Public must engage with Service Provider first.

List of common problems.

The best one I've heard on Radio 702 today was an old blind man who didn't own a car, was billed.

My take on some wrong billing is that the re-issue of cell numbers confuses the issue.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/ncc-to-field-e-tolls-complaints-2014-01-21/rep_id:3182

[Trickzta]

Etolls connected to alternate routes. rolling stock and buses.

“A total of 2 800 trains will be delivered next year in Gauteng,” said Maharaj.

In addition, Johannesburg, Tshwane and Ekurhuleni had detailed plans to roll out bus rapid transit systems, which would cost some R10-billion.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/artic...17/rep_id:3182

[Justloadit]

Tell you what pisses my goat

“Some information that is important for consumers to know appears not to have found its way into the public domain in a visible way. One is that workers travelling in buses and taxis are exempted from e-tolls, as these modes of transport pass through the gantries free of charge.

“Transport services in South Africa are ably supported by the minibus taxi industry, ferrying about 60% of the population in Gauteng daily. They form an integral part of the integrated transport system value chain,” commented presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj.

What a load of propaganda piss, so when every one is using the bus transit/taxi system, then how are they going to collect the money from eTolls with no road users? Is this when they increase the cost of eTolls to the few who use it, or are they going to start charging the taxis tolls?

Same crap as with the electricity hikes, when they assumed that after increasing the cost of electricity, the amount of units consumed would remain static, which did not and forced another higher hike in rates.

All hogwash - stand firm.

[CLIVE-TRIANGLE]

I finally received an invoice with an attached transaction report.

The transaction report details the gate, the date and time and the charge. It even has three sample photos.

To be frank, I have absolutely no complaints with the invoice; even the discount is analyzed.

[Trickzta]

S.A. could make much more use of solar power, robots or traffic lights, even street lights and advertising boards and much more if we applied ourselves could benefit from this technology.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/artic...24/rep_id:3182

Still no account from Sanral. Surely the onus is on them to supply an invoice, or do I have to ask for one?

[wynn]

I was reading an article in the 'Daily Maverick' about etolling and had a lateral epiphany.

If you buy an e-tag but don't keep it in your car, then any time you get photographed going through a gantry, you can claim it is a cloned numberplate because why? you have a tag!

Let them prove that you don't use it! I don't think they can.

[Justloadit]

What if you have an e-tag, but want it to be universal, in other words, you drive all sorts of vehicles, every day, if you stick the tag on the window of a different vehicle, what is the system going to do?
Doc your tag and send an invoice to the original owner?

[Phil Cooper]

Tags are linked to specific vehicle.

Tag in wring car - will get billed anyway.