What I would do If I ran SA

[adrianh]

But if you cut the nuts off at birth then you are going to be left with a bunch of gays....not a bad thing mind you, when they strike they will go to work wearing non-Prada handbags....

[Mike C]

Didn't know where to put this - BEE Forum - General Discussion - Politics - Woolworths ... ???
Then I decided that in light of the recent posts here ... it might fit in just as well.

Monday, 10 September 2012 08:01

Australians call for sanctions against SA


The new South African government's racist policies and affirmative action has led to calls for sanctions against SA.

The National Chairman of the Australian Protectionist Party, Andrew Phillips called upon both the Federal Labor government and the Opposition to unanimously support the re-introduction of sanctions upon South Africa.

"It is becoming increasingly clear the situation in South Africa warrants international attention once again", Phillips said. "Despite noble announcements by the African National Congress (ANC) of its intent to make South Africa an egalitarian society in which all people could live in harmony and have equal opportunity-the reality is quite different."

His calls follow Woolworths SA asking that only "African Black candidates" apply for certain posts in job advertisements and South African Airways saying it will only appoint black pilots to its cadet pilot training programme.

Phillips said "Australia is dragging its feet in recognising the reality of the New South Africa. Euro MPs Barry Madlener and Lucas Hartong have already called for the EU to cease giving millions in aid to South Africa and have already raised the issue of what can only be described as cultural genocide in that country." See our story "EU take on SAA in pilot racism".

The Australian Protectionist Party recognises the right of all people, irrespective of racial, cultural or religious background to a safe homeland, self determination and the opportunity to control their national destiny in an increasingly globalised world.

"With the advent of so-called majority rule, minorities such as the Afrikaner communities are experiencing ever increasing disadvantage and persecution based on the colour of their skin" Phillips said.

"The South African government has done little to protect the lives of the nation's farmers and their families, actively promotes the on-going Anglicisation of the nation's government sector with the current debate of the "Languages Bill" and has reduced an estimated 10% of the nation's Afrikaner community to the poverty line through the introduction of a race based Affirmative Action policy - a situation President Zuma described as both "shocking and surprising", yet has done nothing to address".

"Australia was quick to take the moral high-ground against South Africa decades ago, now is not the time to expose our hypocrisy by refusing to re-introduce sanctions and apply meaningful diplomatic pressure upon the ANC regime," Phillips said.

[adrianh]

The group that wrote that piece does not represent anybody of real importance in Australia. They are a handful of people who have their own little 'party'

[tec0]

Well the subject can no longer be ignored, it is time for the UN to take notice of the growing problem of oppression. Minorities cannot own stock in certain companies, they cannot get work thanks to various legislation the list goes on.

Answering a question from DA parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko in front of the National Assembly the Prez said: "You have more rights because you're a majority; you have less rights because you're a minority. That's how democracy works." Source

There it is...

9. Equality

Everyone is equal before the law and has the right to equal protection and benefit of the law.

Equality includes the full and equal enjoyment of all rights and freedoms. To promote the achievement of equality, legislative and other measures designed to protect or advance persons, or categories of persons, disadvantaged by unfair discrimination may be taken.

The state may not unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds, including race, gender, sex, pregnancy, marital status, ethnic or social origin, colour, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture, language and birth.

*1 No person may unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds in terms of subsection (3). National legislation must be enacted to prevent or prohibit unfair discrimination.

Discrimination on one or more of the grounds listed in subsection (3) is unfair unless it is established that the discrimination is fair." Source

So why not ask our local politicians to go to the UN and ask for an inquiry?

[cyppok]

http://www.thecropsite.com/reports/?category=142&id=142

SA is still self-sufficient in corn, once you get massive food inflation that is when the fun truly starts. I am sure the child subsidies will not cover food costs post inflation but you never know.
My guess is 10 million more people and you go to 0 surplus on corn. May come quicker if area decline continues and yields don't grow as they used to in the past. If yields per/ha drop then faster.

The reality is you just need to drop below trend line for a year or two for massive spikes due to imports and considering that SA was above trend line for a while every year the likelihood is more likely for it to fluctuate below.

Sooner or later there will be a spiral of discontent, how it is shaped and directed is another matter.

Decentralization is more important because accountability is closer to their constituency. It may be more efficient corruption wise to have one national company that has multiple layers of slanted responsibility instead of multiple single layer locally vertical companies.
I am very optimistic about SA it has lots of nice coastlines, beaches, resources, watched a lot of documentaries on Youtube. [Stayin' Alive in Joburg, and a few others.]

Sure its' decrepit and getting worse but I figure once it collapses the rise from the ashes will be the time to get involved. Unless it goes full blown nationalization/redistribution and tries to internally create enemies of the state and whatnot.
Also I don't think SA went through the proper housing bubble we went through here in the states (and Canada is just entering) once you go through the boom and bust of the housing bubble it will get interesting.

I also think geopolitically there has to be a re-arrangement and right now SA is seemingly neutral in the re-alignment. What has to happen is for outside interests to get strong enough incentive to try to sway it one way or another. Figure this happens only after they nationalize or BEEqualize the car industry or something else.

[Dave A]

I have a (not so little) list...

My top priority would have the short title of "Quality education for all", and it would be a priority with two parts.

The first part would be primary education. Quite simply we cannot waste another generation on the pitiful excuse for primary education so widely prevalent today. This would not be an apex priority - it would be the apex priority. Nothing will be allowed to undermine, water down, render ineffective or in any way diminish the efficient, effective equipping and deploying of resources to achieve this, right down to truant officers wandering the streets during school hours. Failure is not an option!

I'll get to tertiary education tomorrow.

[Blurock]

I have a (not so little) list...

My top priority would have the short title of "Quality education for all", and it would be a priority with two parts.

I can not agree more. But we should also consider adult education. I cringe every time I see barbaric hordes running amok in our streets. People who think that they can fix everything with violence. People who are intimidated and manipulated like puppets because of their insecurities and superstition which can be blamed on a lack of proper education and upbringing.

Information plays a huge role and allowing people access to news from all over the world keeps them informed. The information bill should never be allowed to be passed.

I also question the accommodation of the tribal system where everything belongs to the king or the chief. People will never become land owners and therefore development is stunted. We live in a republic with democratic rights for every citizen. Not so in the tribal areas. The tribal system belongs to the stone age and should be scrapped.

[tec0]

Education... I had a good long talk with a few educators and apart from being brash and narcissistic they really don’t give a damn about their students. Now there are acceptations but that is not really the problem.

The problem is this; regardless of studying very hard a student can still fail. Not because he/she made lots of mistakes but because of the person marking the paper has no clue what he/she is doing. Or so goes the rumours. Not so you will say clearly if you study hard enough you must pass! The proof is in the high scoring students, students that score 80% and higher and then suddenly fail there end examination spectacularly so.

Rumours include the following: Those who mark there examination papers will discriminate against minorities, do not have the education to figure out if what the student answered is actually correct or not. And may even draw a line trough a question paper if the person’s surname doesn’t look right. (this include both majority and minority)

Now the proof comes in strange form, if the student asks to have her/his question paper remarked they simply deduct two or more marks to shut them up. But when the student pays to see her/his marked question paper it disappears or the student can wait for a reply indefinitely.

So in the end the student will just have to redo her/his subjects and they just keep on making more money!

But again proving anything is impossible.
Thus education is questionable as are there practices behind closed doors.


Please note my Disclaimer

[wynn]

Legally your kid has to go to school!
If you get him/her to write O levels it doesn't matter what the local pass mark/certificate says.

People used to get a 'Rhodes University Diploma' now it is a 'Fort Hare Rhodes Campus Diploma' who anywhere in the world knows what 'Fort Hare' is?

But if you had a Diploma from the 'Greater Birmingham Technical School' it would probably carry more weight.

[tec0]

I can tell you this I am currently doing subjects to secure my second trade. Do you know how carp it feels when you see that you get up to 25% less then what you where suppose to get? Now I am not new to politics and all the BS. But imagine a 17 year old that worked his a$$ off to get a good mark and fail? It is really a horrible experience. But the worst thing is they don't get answers just BS.

But you must hear the excuses that the moms and dads get!!! It is beyond believe...

[Citizen X]

The problem is this; regardless of studying very hard a student can still fail.

Tec0, what you say have great merit! I'm of the opinion that all University exam papers are not designed to test you but rather to trick you! A student may have prepared thoroughly for an examination, studied diligently and studied everything. It's disconcerting to be faced with a paper that is ambiguos and aims to trick you! I firmly belive that if I can explain the subject matter to another person in an easy to understand and practical manner then I've understood the content and should pass! Believe me, there were times when I was expecting distinctions, even bragged about my forthcoming distinctions to many well before the fact of results, only to be overwhelmed by the fact that I just managed to pass!

[Blurock]

Fail is the First Attempt In Learning. It is not a disgrace. There may be circumstances beyond your control, but try again. Never give up!

[wynn]

I'm of the opinion that all University exam papers are not designed to test you but rather to trick you!

I have said that for many years!
I believe all exams should be open book with a shortened completion time, if you know the work you will pass, if like me, you have a s#!t memory, you can check your facts and still pass, if you haven't done the work having an open book is not going to help unless you have a mega speed reading gift.

Like I have said before, when asked a question about a theorem an open book will assist with the exceptions, if you haven't studied the theorem you won't be able to answer the question in the time given.

[cyppok]

I have said that for many years!
I believe all exams should be open book with a shortened completion time, if you know the work you will pass, if like me, you have a s#!t memory, you can check your facts and still pass, if you haven't done the work having an open book is not going to help unless you have a mega speed reading gift.

Like I have said before, when asked a question about a theorem an open book will assist with the exceptions, if you haven't studied the theorem you won't be able to answer the question in the time given.

Whats the point of learning? It used to be that you needed to know things through and through so you could create solutions to known problems from memory and adapt what you learned. Then we got expansion in politically correct history and morality/ethics of society and how it applies to various aspects that skewed real solutions into unreal, unusable, and to some degree worthless knowledge.

Sadly this is still propogating further. To some degree since everything is online you could say simply searching for an answer is possible. The problem is understanding and practical application is non-existent in schools it is not thought at all. Those chemistry and physics labs were about that pure and simple understanding of forces around you and how to manipulate them at least in basic aspects. Sadly it is all getting dumbified and zombified through e-learning and other aspects that really leave people breeze through without any understanding at all.

[Phil Cooper]

1. Ban minimum wages - let people offer what they want, the worker can accept or reject. Better to be earning R2,000 a month than starving with nothing.

2. Allow hiring and firing without all this CCMA cr#p! If you look at the fastest growing economies they have the easiest hire and fire legislation.

3. Boost taxes to schooling, hospitals and law enforcement. Put qualified financial people (CAs etc) in charge of the funds.

4. Tenders will be opened transparently, in public, and the cheapest tender which complies with ALL requirements is awarded it - open to challenge from cheaper tenderers.

5. Ban unions.