What I would do If I ran SA

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  • IanF
    Moderator

    • Dec 2007
    • 2680

    #46
    I love the irony here
    Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi’s car was pelted with stones on Friday while visiting striking miners in Orkney, reports say.

    Vavi was on his way to visit a third hostel at AngloGold's mine when angry workers attacked the vehicle. News24 link
    Lets see if COSATU get serious about peaceful strikes?
    Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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    • Blurock
      Diamond Member

      • May 2010
      • 4203

      #47
      The cANCer is now reaping what it has sown. You can not teach youngsters that there is "no education before liberation" and also promote civil disobedience by make a country or province "ungovernable" without there being consequences. What were they thinking!!
      Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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      • tec0
        Diamond Member

        • Jun 2009
        • 4624

        #48
        When someone talks so recklessly about war it makes me cringe. If I was cancer I wouldn’t do a darn thing to aid and or stop the strikers nor find any solution between the unions and the companies.

        The reason is simple, after all is said and done the unions will face financial annihilation. Just imagine the coming lawsuits not only nationally but internationally. The unions will not survive and this will allow cancer to put an end to one of the most powerful movement to date.

        Thus answering the question as to why cancer is so hesitant in doing anything at al. they are removing a big thorn from there backside and they will be stronger than ever.
        peace is a state of mind
        Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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        • Citizen X
          Diamond Member

          • Sep 2011
          • 3411

          #49
          Originally posted by tec0
          When someone talks so recklessly about war it makes me cringe. If I was cancer I wouldn’t do a darn thing to aid and or stop the strikers nor find any solution between the unions and the companies.

          The reason is simple, after all is said and done the unions will face financial annihilation. Just imagine the coming lawsuits not only nationally but internationally. The unions will not survive and this will allow cancer to put an end to one of the most powerful movement to date.

          Thus answering the question as to why cancer is so hesitant in doing anything at al. they are removing a big thorn from there backside and they will be stronger than ever.
          War is a brutal thing! On the ground and closer to home, it destroys homes, businesses, displaces families, obliterates infrastructure and destroys innocent lives. We need to learn from history and from other counteries in a current state of civil war such as Syria and simply say, we emphatize with them, but we thank God and goodness that it's not us...What we need right here in SA is a very strong opposition. Once certain bills can be prevented from being passed into law and other bills promoted, we'll be on the right track!
          “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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          • Dave A
            Site Caretaker

            • May 2006
            • 22803

            #50
            I think the thing that needs to be avoided is a "power at any cost" mindset. It's not enough to have a strong opposition, you need to feel comfortable that your future is in reasonably safe hands even if it is "your opposition" that is in power.

            This is where I felt Thabo Mbeki took the wrong road in centralising power rather than spreading responsibility during his Presidency. Yes, you're in control while you're in charge - but my goodness you're naked when someone else takes over your too-powerful seat.
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            • Blurock
              Diamond Member

              • May 2010
              • 4203

              #51
              Well, it is official; BEE and BBBEEE etc etc is dead! The new policy is that it is not good enough to give 51% of your business to your Black brother. You have to give 100%. 51% ownership will not get you to level 2 with the new proposed structures. Organisations such as BBC and Nafcoc say that they are not racist, they just prefer black.

              If you are not black or black enough, forget to do business with these organisations or any of its affiliated members.
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              • Dave A
                Site Caretaker

                • May 2006
                • 22803

                #52
                I've been mulling over that aspect of the proposals for a while now.

                The conclusion I've arrived at is it's not the scoring that'll be a problem. It's already crazy that an organisation can achieve a level 2 BEE score with remarkably little black representation at the top. Nope, I reckon the proposed scoring improves meaningful differentiation.

                The real problem is how that scoring will be applied in preferential procurement! Level 4 is 100% - essentailly adequate to achieve preferential procurement targets per the scorecard. But any buying organisation that sets a "we'll only procure from level 2 upwards" policy is essentially going "100% black or no deal." And I'd suggest that would be unfair racism.

                If that base line is set at level 4 things should work out though. The level 2's will have an edge, but non-racial organisations and EME's (who really don't have the scale to compensate for a white owner in the mix) will still be in the game.
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                • Blurock
                  Diamond Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 4203

                  #53
                  The problem I have with this whole BEE thing is that it is not promoting non-racial diversity. If you employ people from different backgrounds we can all learn from each other and take the good from each community to create a better workplace.

                  The other problem is that a black person with the right connections can get a tender/contract/order to supply "whatever" just because government does not want to buy from a white owned or partially white owned firm. There is no consideration of the consequences if "whatever" is imported from China and the white owned firm who employs 300 black people is put out of business.

                  This shows how little consideration there is for the workers and the poor when it comes to government policies.
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