So what will you do if Malema becomes president of South Africa?

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  • wynn
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    • Oct 2006
    • 3338

    #46
    There is a good chance of Malema becoming president as long as nobody else makes the wild promises and sloganeers better than "Economic Freedom In Our Lifetime" and "Nationalise the Mines" that appeals to the 'Hoy Poloy' who happen to be the majority of the voters.
    Malema only needs 51% of a two horse race to be president, if there are more horses the % comes down??? he may get in on a 30-25-25-20 split.
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    • vieome
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      • Apr 2012
      • 540

      #47
      Every African country has fallen on obtaining Independence, if we learn from history, we should know that it is inevitable that South Africa will follow this path. We can choose to reject our African reality and substitute it with out our own, with dreams of Glory, but the truth remains, we on an uninterrupted downward trajectory. Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the not be the first country an African Leader has destroyed, and they have become exceedingly efficient at it. It has nothing to do with the leaders education level, it is all to do with greed and the secret african code, black wealth no matter what the cost.

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      • Citizen X
        Diamond Member

        • Sep 2011
        • 3411

        #48
        Originally posted by wynn
        There is a good chance of Malema becoming president as long as nobody else makes the wild promises and sloganeers better than "Economic Freedom In Our Lifetime" and "Nationalise the Mines" that appeals to the 'Hoy Poloy' who happen to be the majority of the voters.
        Malema only needs 51% of a two horse race to be president, if there are more horses the % comes down??? he may get in on a 30-25-25-20 split.
        Where Malema will fail dismillay is attempting to market himself as a revolutionary in a Constitutional Democracy..He is trying to market himself as the same calibre as the original freedom fighters! He will never to that with credibility, grassroots people are no fools!
        “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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        • Citizen X
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          • Sep 2011
          • 3411

          #49
          Originally posted by vieome
          Every African country has fallen on obtaining Independence, if we learn from history, we should know that it is inevitable that South Africa will follow this path. We can choose to reject our African reality and substitute it with out our own, with dreams of Glory, but the truth remains, we on an uninterrupted downward trajectory. Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the not be the first country an African Leader has destroyed, and they have become exceedingly efficient at it. It has nothing to do with the leaders education level, it is all to do with greed and the secret african code, black wealth no matter what the cost.
          I not that convinced! I can only speak from my own subjective perspective which includes interactions with people in informal settlements and people from all walks of life, I message I get is, we really want to try and make this work in SA!
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          • vieome
            Email problem

            • Apr 2012
            • 540

            #50
            Not sure what they are telling you, but one thing I have learnt over the years is that what people say is not that important, but their actions very important. So them saying they want to make it work and their actions is to put a man with 700 allegations against him to lead them, in the making it work.

            Edit :
            As you witness the death of a country the stages are the same like death of human
            Five stages
            Denial ( where you at right now)
            Anger ( Where are alot of people are at)
            Bargaining
            Depression
            Acceptance(Acceptance is often confused with the notion of being “all right” or “OK” with what has happened. This is not the case. Most people don’t ever feel OK or all right about the loss of a loved country)

            The sooner one accepts what is happening and the path we are on, the better the decisions one can make.

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            • Citizen X
              Diamond Member

              • Sep 2011
              • 3411

              #51
              Originally posted by vieome
              Not sure what they are telling you, but one thing I have learnt over the years is that what people say is not that important, but their actions very important. So them saying they want to make it work and their actions is to put a man with 700 allegations against him to lead them, in the making it work.

              Edit :
              As you witness the death of a country the stages are the same like death of human
              Five stages
              Denial ( where you at right now)
              Anger ( Where are alot of people are at)
              Bargaining
              Depression
              Acceptance(Acceptance is often confused with the notion of being “all right” or “OK” with what has happened. This is not the case. Most people don’t ever feel OK or all right about the loss of a loved country)

              The sooner one accepts what is happening and the path we are on, the better the decisions one can make.
              I sincerely hope that we not in this process od decay! The key is genuinely letting go of the past once and for all! The past is just that, the past!
              “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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              • vieome
                Email problem

                • Apr 2012
                • 540

                #52
                We study our past so as not to repeat our mistakes, but history shows us that we do. It really comes down to human nature. A building is on fire in the building there are two people, one is your relative, who do you save? A job opens up at your company, a relative and another apply, they have the same matric grades except your relative has a C for maths and the other has a B, who do you hire? It is easy to let go of the past given that it is only memory, but there will always be those that use the past to control the masses for personal gain. While the idea may come across in the glass is half empty or half full, what I pointing at, is the water in the glass is not safe for human consumption.

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                • ians
                  Diamond Member

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3943

                  #53
                  The writting is on the wall, or should i say on all the fences (barb wire). Hijackings, armed robberies,murders are becoming a way of life, just about everyday i hear of another person who was attacked or murdered.

                  People said Zuma would never become president, need i say more.

                  What blows my mind is the fact that people are on this big drive to save the rhino, dont get me wrong i think it is great, but hello, more than 15000 human beings were murdered last year, "43 A DAY".
                  The latest statistics from the South African Police Service show small gains in the fight against crime but murder rates are still unacceptably high.


                  Whoppee do a 3 % decrease, so there is no need to panic.
                  Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                  • Blurock
                    Diamond Member

                    • May 2010
                    • 4203

                    #54
                    Now Zuma talks at the UN about better education in the world when we have a crisis here with books not delivered kids not going to school in the Northern Cape as the parents protest. This man needs to go!
                    The biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. A man with no morals goes to Alex and tells the youth to have discipline and respect for their elders. Do you have no shame?
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                    • wynn
                      Diamond Member

                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3338

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Vanash Naick
                      Where Malema will fail dismillay is attempting to market himself as a revolutionary in a Constitutional Democracy..He is trying to market himself as the same calibre as the original freedom fighters! He will never to that with credibility, grassroots people are no fools!
                      Where Malema is sneaky sly is he knows that the majority of voters that are disenfranchised and dirt poor with no prospects are under 30, they were 12 or younger when the ANC came to power and have had nothing for their vote for more than half or more of their lives.
                      It is a ready made gallery and he only has to make the right noises to preach to the already converted.
                      "Nobody who has succeeded has not failed along the way"
                      Arianna Huffington

                      Read the first 10% of my books "Didymus" and "The BEAST of BIKO BRIDGE" for free
                      You can also read and download 100% free my short stories "A Real Surprise" and "Pieces of Eight" at
                      http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/332256

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                      • bjsteyn
                        Silver Member

                        • Jul 2010
                        • 231

                        #56
                        The initial title for the post was "What would you do if Malema became president of South Africa". Haven't seen anybody answer that yet.
                        I would start a Political party to run for President, no not be President myself, as I am a thinker and not a talker, I would be working in the background. But
                        enough would be enough. And this would have to happen before Malema was elected, as he will probably take a Mugabe approach and become a dictator.

                        But it would have no effect in the voting poles to un-topple the ANC or Malema's own party, unless there were some serious well known people in my camp.
                        The big question: What could give have a bigger effect on votes for a party than big promises. The answer: Hero's

                        Yes, i believe we all idolize our hero's and would vote for a party filled with them, no matter what race or class. I believe they would have alot of black votes and could even untopple
                        the ANC.

                        Imagine a party with well respected sports leaders like John Smit, thinkers like Rassie Erasmus, Dedication like Jacques Kallis. Hero's like Oscar Pistorious, Entrepeneurs like Mark Shuttleworth, Actors like Charlize Theron. You would still have your politicians in the party. Trevor Noah could be the speaker as he can say things that other South African's are thinking and get away with it and still make
                        you laugh.

                        What could they contribute to politics. Well firstly I am sure they all have matric. So they are over qualified in SA's goverment requirements. :-)
                        I am sure they would do a better job than our current or even previous governments.

                        Haha, just something to think about.
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                        • IanF
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                          • Dec 2007
                          • 2680

                          #57
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                          We get the government we deserve.
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                          • Blurock
                            Diamond Member

                            • May 2010
                            • 4203

                            #58
                            Originally posted by bjsteyn
                            The initial title for the post was "What would you do if Malema became president of South Africa". Haven't seen anybody answer that yet.
                            I would have to go and buy new under pants. The old ones would be too soiled to wear again...
                            Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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                            • Blurock
                              Diamond Member

                              • May 2010
                              • 4203

                              #59
                              What do you call someone who wore only T-shirts and Che Guevara berets every day and now suddenly appears in a black suit and red tie?

                              The accused!
                              Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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                              • pieksie
                                Full Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 26

                                #60
                                What will I do? I guess I'll get my guns ready...

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