New Economic Rights Alliance???The Big Case?

[Citizen X]

The following article made it to Polity.co.za:

"Justus" is a Circus

"Imagine you discover that an Unconstitutional fraud is being perpetuated on the people of South Africa by the banks. You spend over a year collecting evidence and research with specific reference to South African economics and South African law. You create a non-profit organisation, elicit the support of 150,000 people and lay it before the High Court as best you can.

This is the story of The New Economic Rights Alliance, aka: NewERA."

Link : http://www.polity.org.za/article/new...013-2013-04-11

A very good evening to you Skywalker,

Are you a member of Newera? What is your affiliation with Newera? Nothing wrong if you are affiliated with them! Please indulge me by answering the question please?

[Dave A]

Skywalker has shown an interest in a range of topics so far.

[SkyWalker42]

A very good evening to you Skywalker,

Are you a member of Newera? What is your affiliation with Newera? Nothing wrong if you are affiliated with them! Please indulge me by answering the question please?

I am not a 'paying member' of NewERA. I subscribed to receive their news via email. I suppose that makes me one of their 150 000 'supporters'. I do support their views and efforts.

[SkyWalker42]

Skywalker has shown an interest in a strange range of topics so far.

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[SkyWalker42]

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I believe this, more than anything else, is why the effort is doomed from the outset - the lack of a genuinely viable alternative proposal.

Even if NerERA wins a single line in the skirmish, the consequences of a change to the status quo are going to determine the path forward far more than the fault found. And I'm not talking about just the consequences to the big corporates and the big cheeses - I mean the consequences for all of society - quite literally civilisation as we know it.

This is why it is called the Big Case. It is like Ron Paul asking to audit the privately owned Federal Reserve, which has not happened yet and is probably not going to happen. The consequences will be too devastating to the system.

What NewERA is asking is also to audit the FED (SARB) and they are actually getting a step further than Ron Paul has.

The alternative. A State owned central bank.

Just like
Afghanistan (used to have)
Iraq (used to have)
Libya (used to have)
North Korea
Iran.

Spot the pattern...

[Citizen X]

I am not a 'paying member' of NewERA. I subscribed to receive their news via email. I suppose that makes me one of their 150 000 'supporters'. I do support their views and efforts.

A very good afternoon to you Skywalker
There wouldn't be anything wrong if you were a paying member! I'm fairly neutral on this matter, just wanted to see want is your angle on this matter..just curious I suppose..

[Blurock]

I have still not seen any argument that makes any sense in support of this action. Can you give us some facts, not wild accusations and theories.

[Frankincense]

I am very familiar with the nature of charges being raised by the plaintiff. It has been clearly documented in the summons. If anyone requires further "clarification" of the breaches modern banking institutions are, according to my judgment, guilty of, and wish to label them as vague, I would question such an individuals ability to understand simple literature and refer them to read the detail and look around them as citizens funds are being depleted due to banks failures as in Cyprus. When the SARB too attempts to correct the inflationary consequences of renegade printing of cash without reserves having interest included without having those reserves, and commercial banks creating trillions of virtual rands in loans, RSA citizens will have their savings taken from them, and the alledged "vagueness / intangeability" will dawn upon the "nay sayers" of today. Be that as disappointing as it may be from watching the questions being asked, I would find in plaintiffs favour and ensure banks are to plea.

[Citizen X]

Be that as disappointing as it may be from watching the questions being asked, I would find in plaintiffs favour and ensure banks are to plea.

I too am very keen to see the outcome of this matter. I think that at the very least, the court should accept their amended particulars of claim and give the banks an opportunity to plead. Scotty has thus far being open, transparent and forthcoming in this thread, I trust that he will provide us with the banks plea when that time arrives. Vague and embarassing doesn't necessariuly mean that the pleading lacked quantity, it means that the pleading was not clear and concise, averment by averment. One must remember that the banks will have to plead averment by averment, and answer every single thing in each paragraph, should they fail to do so, it will be taken to be an admission. So yes, the initial particulars of claim was vague. Time will tell on this matter..very keen to see the outcome

[SkyWalker42]

NewERA updates on this thread;

http://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/showthread.php/12768-Our-banks-are-being-sued?p=90804&viewfull=1#post90804

Rather click this one for "full view"

http://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/showthread.php/12768-Our-banks-are-being-sued?p=86252&highlight=#post86252