Give For Life

[Hane]

Hi I'm Hanè and this is my first post but I would really like to tell you about Give for Life. Its the same as U-Care and On-Track just with more options.

Basically you make a monthly donation that gets payed into an account that is managed by BOE and audited by PricewaterhouseCooper and the Law Review Project.

There is a R150 registration fee and then there are 4 packages to choose from
1. Bronze R189 p.m and you receive 50% commission
2. Silver R250 p.m you receive 55% commission
3. Gold R500 p.m you receive 60% commission
4. Platinum R1000 p.m you receive 65% commission
Commission is payed out to 5 levels.

The charities that they support are:
· World Wide Fund for Nature South Africa;
· South African Red Cross Society;
· National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (NSPCA);
· The Cancer Association of South Africa (CANSA);
· Cotlands;
· CHOC;
· Reach For A Dream;
· ACFS Community and Feeding Scheme;
· Ithemba Trust.
Participants have the option of donating 50% of the Charity portion to a charity of their own choice!!

Give for life is endorsed by several celebrities namely:
· Victor Matfield
· Ryk Neethling
· Arnold Geerdts
· John-Laffnie de Jager
· Heinz & Alette Winckler
· Hykie Berg
· Bala Brothers
· Altus Theart
· Andrew Thompson
· Zetske van Pletzen

If you would like to receive more info or have any questions please ask and I'll try and answer it.

[Marq]

So let me get this straight...

I pay R1000 to a charity every month....only....
65% goes to your commission
say 30% goes to admin fees (usual cut isnt it?) .... price waterhouse audit fees BOA bank charges etc (these guys are expensive) and then...whoa ...what about the other 5 level commission payouts........say 5%

R 0 of my intended R1,000 actually goes to a charity.

Great charity and philanthropic effort.

Why why not just have a scheme where you put the R1000 in the bank every month and then pay it all back to the donors based on who paid it in first.

Is there a tax angle here?

[Hane]

20% is payed out to charity 20% is for admin fees and the rest is commissions

[Hane]

Sorry just read I dont get the 65% commission if you pay R1000 YOU get 65% commission on all the money earned by your downline.

[Hane]

If I can give you an example.

You pay R1000 pm
You get 5 other people to sign up and they each take the R189 pm. They each get 5 people for 5 levels down.

Now you can go and give R1000 to charity or you can earn R147 609 for charities per month.

Now that will make a big differance in a charity's budget.

To top it all of you earn R33 000 pm

[desA]

A pyramid scheme, it seems to be.

Why not channel the money into worthy causes directly, instead of using 'agents' to pay it for you? Goodness, a sucker must be born every second.

Friend, I have seen first hand, in Laos, what the end NGO's get up with donor funds. It is a whole scam & skim industry in itself. Less than 10% of donor fund reaches the final intended recipients, from what I've seen. These are all the top names, to boot.

Sorry, I really do not like this kind of stuff. Sorry if I've offended you.

[Hane]

No problem but this isn't a pyramid scheme it is a legit network marketing opportunity that can benefit charities. The Law Review Project would not have approved it if it isn't legit.

The reason why I like it is because I know how many people are out there that says that they would give to charities if they had more money. That doesn't help the charities. This is an opportunity for that person to earn extra income and give to charities. They can even give more out of their own pocket as well. Then the charities will get even more.

Charities are suffering because society is suffering. If a person is going to look into mlm then way cant a charity profit from that?

[desA]

Charities are suffering because society is suffering. If a person is going to look into mlm then way cant a charity profit from that?

There we go then. Why don't you donate your time for free? This would be incredibly generous.

I'd also remind you that the current financial crisis began with a number of legal financial instruments. Look where it all ended up.

I do apologise if I've hurt your feelings, but, boy oh boy, I've seen this kind of scheme in action in so many flavours. The end result is always the same.

[Hane]

I do give my time for free, why do you think I joined a mlm that benefit charity and not just my own pocket?

[wynn]

Don't be a 'Patsy'
20% to the charity 20% to the admin and the rest to commissions 5 levels deep.
Whew that means 80% of my charity is missing the mark. that is worse than the Church.
Rather give to the 'Salvation Army' at least you know that more than 70% will hit the mark because the people that run the show do it for charity and a stipend.
They make sure that the money is only used for genuine charity, food, clothes and accommodation, not me too, hands out, I need another bottle, bums.

[Hane]

True but would you rather receive 100% of R1000 from 1 person or 20% that will lead to R147 609 as example above? Not enough people support charities. That's the big problem. With this its a way to get more people to support charities because most people are just looking out for number one.

[Hane]

There we go then. Why don't you donate your time for free? This would be incredibly generous.

I'd also remind you that the current financial crisis began with a number of legal financial instruments. Look where it all ended up.

I do apologise if I've hurt your feelings, but, boy oh boy, I've seen this kind of scheme in action in so many flavours. The end result is always the same.

I do give my time free Why do you think I joined a mlm that support charity and not just my own pocket?

[desA]

True but would you rather receive 100% of R1000 from 1 person or 20% that will lead to R147 609 as example above? Not enough people support charities. That's the big problem. With this its a way to get more people to support charities because most people are just looking out for number one.

These incremental vacuum pipelines only serve the pockets of the vacuum pipe operators. This is a scam. I am astonished that you have the gall to continue your salespitch.

[Hane]

I'm not pitching, do realise that I would like to see more money going to the charity and less to the pockets of the agents but for me its swallowing the bitter pill to get more money to the charity. Do you know that some charities are so desperate for money that they would get a sms short code that is charged at R15 and they only receive R6? They are so desperate for money that that every cent help. Do you think that if I go around and asked everyone to donate R189 to an animal charity that lots of people would give? Tell them that they can make money out of it then more people are interested? Its sad but very true.

[desA]

Ok, Hane. I'll bow out of your pitch now, else it will just continue on its trajectory.

Were this a telephone call, I'd have cut in the first 5 seconds...