Website, from zero to hero

**tonyflanigan** · 21-Jul-10, 08:49 PM

imho, joomjoom sucks, wordpress is great. With just a bit of research and effort you will realise that wordpress leaves joomjoom way behind. wordpress is a very efficient, and effective cms.

I do realise that trying to convert a die hard is pretty difficult, but I do need to tell you that I have spent many hours with both. joomjoom just could not, and still cannot do what wordpress does. full stop. end of story.

Yes, Oscommerce is hot. Zen cart need to do lotsa work to catch up.

**garthu** · 22-Jul-10, 08:16 AM

The world cup seems to have finished as we just got busy again, I hope it lasts.

@Ian -hope you right, the quietest days we've had.. who would have thought!

Just in the process of trying the Zen cart thing as well. Gotta say the back end is a STEEP learning curve... but having said that, there hasn't beed a single thing that i havnt been able to do... with cuck loads of home work and direct php edit. Can't comment on the OScommerce

**adrianh** · 22-Jul-10, 08:32 AM

imho, joomjoom sucks, wordpress is great. With just a bit of research and effort you will realise that wordpress leaves joomjoom way behind.

I honestly couldn't care less about what sucks and what is great. And no, I am not going to take any effort or do any reasearch. Each product, in its own way, meets my specific need, which is to make money from selling my products.

**IanF** · 22-Jul-10, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by garthu

@Ian -hope you right, the quietest days we've had.. who would have thought!

Garth
Yes I am quiet. The progress so far.
Tried zencart and freeway couldn't get it to work. Now I am using opencart and it is working.
The site is paperkutz.co.za and just has 2 products so far. I have had to go back to the drawing board with production. The original board was too light

, so we are busy with samples then we will takes pictures and load products.
ITO opencart it is easier for me than zencart, I just learnt the hard way is upload images through the programme and not FTP.
Just for websites I used softdux for this site and he has loads of programmes you can use on your sites I even got a redirect to work

Now just to eat the cupcakes that go into the wrappers.

**garthu** · 22-Jul-10, 06:25 PM

Hey the sites looking very nice, crisp and clean!

**wynn** · 23-Jul-10, 11:39 AM

Now make the cups in edible paper that can be dipped in melted chocolate after baking and cooling???

**IanF** · 24-Jul-10, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by wynn

Now make the cups in edible paper that can be dipped in melted chocolate after baking and cooling???

I wish, the board in not recommended for eating and just for decoration.
The site is now ready

with 11 different styles of cupcake wrappers. I see google has picked it up so lets see if we can get on the first page.
For the shopping cart I recommend open cart it is free and quite easy to use, I might just buy an addon for $10 to show colours for for the different options.

The next step is to add different categories I am leaning towards bottle tags and wine claims, any suggestions?

**pyxism** · 24-Jul-10, 06:52 PM

Following humble suggestions:
<title>:
1. Write a catchy title - max 60 characters - Google does not display chars 61 +
2. Try and get rid of "(Powered by CubeCart)"

<meta name="description" content=..
1. Max 145 characters - again try and be catchy - this is first intro to your site that people see

<meta name="keywords" content=
1. Stick to lower case for all keywords
2. Isolate 5 top keywords - write 250-350 word articles on them and post as pages

<div class='txtCopyright'>Powered by
1. This is last div class just before end of page (</html> - if possible try and get rid of the "http://www.cubecart.com" href and try and replace it with your main keyword pointing to your main page e.g. instead of:
Powered by <a href='http://www.cubecart.com' class='txtCopyright' target='_blank'>CubeCart
have this:
<b>Darts</b>by <a href='http://www.dartsdirect.co.za/' class='txtCopyright' target='_blank'>Darts, Flights, Shafts

Same thing with "Copyright" if possible

Search engines: Ignore local SA search engines - unfortunately (sad to say), they do not have any impact. Focus on Google, Bing, Yahoo. Register local business listing with Google:
http://www.google.com/local/add/

Add your business listing to Hotfrog SA, Brownbook - these 2 are best for ranking and enquiries..

Hoe that helps?

**Pap_sak** · 26-Jul-10, 08:59 AM

Cheers for that Pyxism - for most of that I need to upgrade to Cubecart 4 - something I need to look at very soon as cubecart 3 is not great with SEO.

Cheers for the brownbook link, had not heard of that one before.

**SilverNodashi** · 26-Jul-10, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by tonyflanigan

imho, joomjoom sucks, wordpress is great. With just a bit of research and effort you will realise that wordpress leaves joomjoom way behind. wordpress is a very efficient, and effective cms.

I do realise that trying to convert a die hard is pretty difficult, but I do need to tell you that I have spent many hours with both. joomjoom just could not, and still cannot do what wordpress does. full stop. end of story.

Yes, Oscommerce is hot. Zen cart need to do lotsa work to catch up.

probably, but that's just your view point

What works great for you, doesn't necessary work for others, at all. Both Joomla & Wordpress are awesome scripts and excel in their class. They both offer great features, but should also be used for what they we're designed for. And people should use what they're comfortable with