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    Quote Originally Posted by msmoorad View Post
    Cecil john Rhodes was an agent of the Crown who instigated the wars to enable the British/Oppenheimers/Rothschilds to get control of the gold in SA
    this was the root cause of the Anglo Boer wars.
    Morning MS,

    There is some historical truth in what you say.
    One must remember that there were two Anglo Boer wars. Rhodes did promote the British cause but it was more a case of British imperialism. It does hold true that both the gold and diamonds of SA was key on the British agenda. The further truth is that the British Empire was expanding their domain during this time in Africa.

    But again, what does this have to do with the title thread i.e 'NWO has it's sights on SA.'

    This thread is going all over the place and covering a range of issues, incidents and events that are unrelated. I can't see any nexus between both Anglo Boer wars and the so called 'NWO.'

    That being said, one can't deny that this thread has attracted much interest. For reasons beyond me, it seems that more than 150 000 people are interested in the NWO.

    So Trickzta's thread has generated a great deal of interest.
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    This thread is going all over the place and covering a range of issues, incidents and events that are unrelated. I can't see any nexus between both Anglo Boer wars and the so called 'NWO.'
    That is exactly what happens when you just copy and paste (without even reading it in some cases) instead of writing your own educated opinions based on what you think might be factual !

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    It may be off-topic with the thread title, but this post gives a truly brilliant insight into the problem -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    It may be off-topic with the thread title, but this post gives a truly brilliant insight into the problem -


    What a punchline!
    Originally posted by Trickzta
    Critics of what’s known as the “phantom time hypothesis” claim the theory’s grand error is that the correction, back in 1582, wasn’t actually for the purposes of correcting for 10 days. Rather, the intention was to put Easter back in the right place. It was the Council of Nicea that originally decided where Easter should be and its position was set in 325BC – which, boringly, means the maths add up
    I think Trickzta got the date of the council of Nicea incorrect, in fact I know! It was AD 325 and not 325BC. A great many things took place at that council, hence my thread 'the case against Christian Public Holidays,' 'but I'm just being picky,'Imported the last line from a philosophical lady
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanash Naick View Post
    Hi Trickzta,

    It's been some time since we spoke. Suffice to say it, there is truth in the foregoing. The Boers suffered terrible atrocities during the Anglo-Boer war.

    My concern though is that you jumping from one topic to the next under the heading of 'NWO has it's sights on SA,' answer me this: What does your last posts have to with the thread title?
    Good question Vanash, it’s a long story but I’ll keep it as short as I can.

    Cecil John Rhodes was an Agent of the ‘City of London” bankers, the ‘Red Shields’ known as the Rothschilds are the Banking Elite’s Leaders and even the Queen pays homage to them.

    The Bankers paid Rhodes and financed the acquisition of gold and diamond mines in his quest to gain a monopoly on these valuable minerals. Rhodes was a fanatical Empire builder and used the military to take Zimbabwe by force, despite having made a promise not to do so. Albert Beit played a role in this theft and double cross.

    Rhodes became the only living man to have a country named after him. The myths and legends of ancient gold mines in Zimbabwe is what drove Rhodes to claim Zimbabwe for Britain‘s Empire. He had ambitions to colonise the whole African continent.

    I’m writing from memory so the timeline may not be accurate but the events are well documented.

    Rhodes introduced fenced in compounds for the cheap labourers as well as a ‘pass’ system for those ‘natives’on the streets of Kimberly after curfew. Hendrik Vervoerd later adopted these measures and wrote them into law.

    The goldfields of the Witwatersrand proved too big a bone to chew and Rhodes could not gain a majority or monopoly as he had in Kimberly’s diamond rush, something he achieved through deceit, cunning and greed. His partner in crime the rogue Barney Barnato was instrumental in his achieving this monopoly.

    Barney disappeared overboard from a ship on which Rhodes and Barney were sailing to England on. Convenient for Rhodes to say the least.

    President Kruger had sent a proposal to the Queen and the Prime Minister of England in which he made concessions to England and also some requests that would avert military confrontation between the two countries.

    The Queen and the Parliament accepted Krugers terms, stating that they were generous and ample and fully accepted the offer. A letter to this effect was sent to Lord Milner in the Cape. Rhodes and Milner ignored this letter and kept it secret while they plotted for war. Obviously the ‘City of London’ wanted war as there was no other way to seize the gold mines under the Kruger proposals that the Queen endorsed.

    By planning and executing the Jameson raid fiasco they literally forced England into a war she neither started nor wanted.

    The monopoly of the diamond mines led to one of the biggest conspiracies in the world. By hoarding the bulk of the diamonds and controlling their release they were able to sell the diamonds at a price many fold their value. A stone costing $20 could retail for a $1000 or more.

    De Beers would go to any lengths to maintain this artificial value for these little stones. They made a deal with Russia to buy and distribute their diamonds and prevented the Russians from flooding the market and dropping the value of diamonds.

    De Beers is suspected of sabotaging an American diamond mining operation after they refused to sell the mine to the monopoly. The mining operation has never been able to mine diamonds since.

    What we see here is the price fixing for diamonds in the hands of the few. The ‘City of London’ would eventually decide on the price of gold, platinum and other metals as well as controlling the release of diamonds to keep the price inflated.

    These practices were very profitable to the Bankers and was instrumental in keeping the countries who were rich in minerals in perpetual debt with only a few corrupt officials in those countries being enriched. It ensured that the minerals would be mined by using cheap labour and paid for at prices well below their worth. For example, some modern day Financial experts say gold, had its price been market related instead of decided by a few people would be sold at $6000.00 per fine ounce.

    The World Order was stealing the wealth of mineral rich nations and giving little in return. The working conditions in the mines left many people with diseases of the lungs and possibly other ailments too. Little has been done to compensate these workers.

    With Oppenheimer selling his 40% shares in de Beers to Anglo-American in which he had shares and with Anglo-American selling its gold shares they weave a web that entangles any legal action for compensation and makes it difficult to bring the Giant Mining Houses to account.

    Rhodes was the shaker that enabled the ‘City of London’ aka the Masters of world affairs and the so-called ‘shadow’ governments that are the power behind the Governments of many, many countries in our present day world, to be in the situation they find themselves in today.

    The ‘City of London’ is still in the business of instigating wars and their outcome, causing stocks and bonds to be manipulated, stealing the mineral wealth of Nations that have people starving despite their wealth, and a whole lot more.

    Rhodes founded the ‘Round Table’ organisation that serves the Bankers and their objectives till this day. He also started a scholarship for promising young people to groom for future positions that would be beneficial to the Bankers and their goals.

    Rhodes was effectively the first of the Elite to bring South Africa to heel. Everything he did was for the Banker’s Empire first, the Queen second and everyone else, last if at all.

    Please feel free to ask for more detail, for sources or any other questions you might have. I’ll be posting some ‘cut and paste’ articles to add some meat to the bones in this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanash Naick View Post
    I think Trickzta got the date of the council of Nicea incorrect, in fact I know! It was AD 325 and not 325BC. A great many things took place at that council, hence my thread 'the case against Christian Public Holidays,' 'but I'm just being picky,'Imported the last line from a philosophical lady
    Yup, guilty as charged. Or as a lecturer would say "I'm just checking if you're listening (reading in this case). Well spotted Vanash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HR Solutions View Post
    That is exactly what happens when you just copy and paste (without even reading it in some cases) instead of writing your own educated opinions based on what you think might be factual !
    You know which cut and pastes I read and which I don't? Which post was the last one I never even read? Or any post I've not read will be acceptable. If possible let us know how you know this to be true or how you came to this conclusion. Thanks.

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    If possible let us know how you know this to be true or how you came to this conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickzta View Post
    Good question Vanash, it’s a long story but I’ll keep it as short as I can.

    Cecil John Rhodes was an Agent of the ‘City of London” bankers, the ‘Red Shields’ known as the Rothschilds are the Banking Elite’s Leaders and even the Queen pays homage to them.

    The Bankers paid Rhodes and financed the acquisition of gold and diamond mines in his quest to gain a monopoly on these valuable minerals. Rhodes was a fanatical Empire builder and used the military to take Zimbabwe by force, despite having made a promise not to do so. Albert Beit played a role in this theft and double cross.

    Rhodes became the only living man to have a country named after him. The myths and legends of ancient gold mines in Zimbabwe is what drove Rhodes to claim Zimbabwe for Britain‘s Empire. He had ambitions to colonise the whole African continent.

    I’m writing from memory so the timeline may not be accurate but the events are well documented.

    Rhodes introduced fenced in compounds for the cheap labourers as well as a ‘pass’ system for those ‘natives’on the streets of Kimberly after curfew. Hendrik Vervoerd later adopted these measures and wrote them into law.

    The goldfields of the Witwatersrand proved too big a bone to chew and Rhodes could not gain a majority or monopoly as he had in Kimberly’s diamond rush, something he achieved through deceit, cunning and greed. His partner in crime the rogue Barney Barnato was instrumental in his achieving this monopoly.

    Barney disappeared overboard from a ship on which Rhodes and Barney were sailing to England on. Convenient for Rhodes to say the least.

    President Kruger had sent a proposal to the Queen and the Prime Minister of England in which he made concessions to England and also some requests that would avert military confrontation between the two countries.

    The Queen and the Parliament accepted Krugers terms, stating that they were generous and ample and fully accepted the offer. A letter to this effect was sent to Lord Milner in the Cape. Rhodes and Milner ignored this letter and kept it secret while they plotted for war. Obviously the ‘City of London’ wanted war as there was no other way to seize the gold mines under the Kruger proposals that the Queen endorsed.

    By planning and executing the Jameson raid fiasco they literally forced England into a war she neither started nor wanted.

    The monopoly of the diamond mines led to one of the biggest conspiracies in the world. By hoarding the bulk of the diamonds and controlling their release they were able to sell the diamonds at a price many fold their value. A stone costing $20 could retail for a $1000 or more.

    De Beers would go to any lengths to maintain this artificial value for these little stones. They made a deal with Russia to buy and distribute their diamonds and prevented the Russians from flooding the market and dropping the value of diamonds.

    De Beers is suspected of sabotaging an American diamond mining operation after they refused to sell the mine to the monopoly. The mining operation has never been able to mine diamonds since.

    What we see here is the price fixing for diamonds in the hands of the few. The ‘City of London’ would eventually decide on the price of gold, platinum and other metals as well as controlling the release of diamonds to keep the price inflated.

    These practices were very profitable to the Bankers and was instrumental in keeping the countries who were rich in minerals in perpetual debt with only a few corrupt officials in those countries being enriched. It ensured that the minerals would be mined by using cheap labour and paid for at prices well below their worth. For example, some modern day Financial experts say gold, had its price been market related instead of decided by a few people would be sold at $6000.00 per fine ounce.

    The World Order was stealing the wealth of mineral rich nations and giving little in return. The working conditions in the mines left many people with diseases of the lungs and possibly other ailments too. Little has been done to compensate these workers.

    With Oppenheimer selling his 40% shares in de Beers to Anglo-American in which he had shares and with Anglo-American selling its gold shares they weave a web that entangles any legal action for compensation and makes it difficult to bring the Giant Mining Houses to account.

    Rhodes was the shaker that enabled the ‘City of London’ aka the Masters of world affairs and the so-called ‘shadow’ governments that are the power behind the Governments of many, many countries in our present day world, to be in the situation they find themselves in today.

    The ‘City of London’ is still in the business of instigating wars and their outcome, causing stocks and bonds to be manipulated, stealing the mineral wealth of Nations that have people starving despite their wealth, and a whole lot more.

    Rhodes founded the ‘Round Table’ organisation that serves the Bankers and their objectives till this day. He also started a scholarship for promising young people to groom for future positions that would be beneficial to the Bankers and their goals.

    Rhodes was effectively the first of the Elite to bring South Africa to heel. Everything he did was for the Banker’s Empire first, the Queen second and everyone else, last if at all.

    Please feel free to ask for more detail, for sources or any other questions you might have. I’ll be posting some ‘cut and paste’ articles to add some meat to the bones in this post.
    This post is excellent Trickzta!

    You actually thought about the presentation and even made paragraphs. This is something someone can read. I'm not saying saying that I agree with the content but rather that it's well presented.

    Cecil John Rhodes may have played a part but British Imperialism of that day was the main driving force.

    Originally posted by Trickzta
    The World Order was stealing the wealth of mineral rich nations and giving little in return.
    Are you essentially saying that Britain( a country with legal personality), the state, not it's citizens, but it's decision makers are part of this so called NWO?

    Trickzta, your thread has attracted great attention from the amount of people that viewed your thread, that said, why not just stick with this NWO and nothing further on this thread, alternatively create another thread for other issues, topics, matters etc

    Trickzta, I do have my own views on the New World Order, unfortunately they have religious overtures which is unsuitable for a forum of this stature. I have therefore decided not to express them.
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