Smoking at work........

[Citizen X]

Gentle people
No innuendo intended! I simply find it interesting that Nazi Germany was the very first country to have a campaign against the smoking of cigarettes
Have a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-to...n_Nazi_Germany

[adrianh]

Wow, now that makes for interesting reading.

I think that the popularity of smoking was as a direct result of marketing by large American manufacturers who knew perfectly well the devestating effects.

What I don't get is that people still smoke even though there is an abundance of evidence that it is very harmful. I think that if smoking were to kill after only one packet then nobody would smoke, but because the effects take so long people don't think about it. It's weird to think that people will save for their old age yet they would smoke and mess up the exact quailty of life that they are so desperately saving their money for....yet we think we are God's greatest creation because we are "able to think for ourselves"

[Citizen X]

Wow, now that makes for interesting reading.

I think that the popularity of smoking was as a direct result of marketing by large American manufacturers who knew perfectly well the devestating effects.

What I don't get is that people still smoke even though there is an abundance of evidence that it is very harmful. I think that if smoking were to kill after only one packet then nobody would smoke, but because the effects take so long people don't think about it. It's weird to think that people will save for their old age yet they would smoke and mess up the exact quailty of life that they are so desperately saving their money for....yet we think we are God's greatest creation because we are "able to think for ourselves"

A very good morning to you Adrian,
I’m actually not happy that I currently smoke! I gave up smoking for some 6 years! I’m aware that the literature proves that smoking doesn’t relieve stress but that it only makes it worse, but in my case it does seem to help. I remain committed to stopping as smoking affects my exercise regime which is very important to me.
I suppose that if I were your potential employee, I would just have to approach you with humility i.e. Sir I have a cigarette smoking problem, but I give you my word I will never smoke at work

[adrianh]

Oh well, we all have our issues. As long as we are aware of them and work at them then that is all that really matters. My own list of personal issues are a mile long.

[Nigel Hamilton]

this puts it all into perspective



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7YBaiJMnik

[Justloadit]

The anti-tobacco movement did not have much effect in the early years of the Nazi regime and tobacco use increased between 1933 and 1939, but smoking by military personnel declined from 1939 to 1945.

Wow is this not surprising, the fact that most of the army personnel were already dead due to the war effort had nothing to do with the count I suppose

[Citizen X]

Wow is this not surprising, the fact that most of the army personnel were already dead due to the war effort had nothing to do with the count I suppose

The irony is that the American economy as we know it today was built on the tabacco and cotton industries! The only thing that could get America out of the great depression was legalizing alcohol i.e. nullifying prohibition. So these two sins played a major role economically. As for Hitler, he was against cigarretes but not against his personal doctor, Dr Morel shooting him up with drugs everyday.

[tec0]

Well as I sit here at 11:49 "typing not yet posting" two gunshots where fired.

So really smoking will kill us?? Ja nee kyk

I still think if you are a business owner crying about smoking and no smoking then I would imagine that you don't really care for the product and or service. Because if product and service was a priority then the last thing on your mind would be smoking. I say this because you get good and bad employees that smoke and good and bad employees that are none smokers. So my concern would be "how do I get rid of the bad employees" Not cry about who is smoking!

So really you can create your policies and force-feed them to your employees. Really in the end of the day it is what it is...

[pmbguy]

I still think if you are a business owner crying about smoking and no smoking then I would imagine that you don't really care for the product and or service. Because if product and service was a priority then the last thing on your mind would be smoking. I say this because you get good and bad employees that smoke and good and bad employees that are none smokers. So my concern would be "how do I get rid of the bad employees" Not cry about who is smoking!

I agree with you here

Do you think this can work?

A Good size Proper Smoking Area, outside of public view, in or near the business building.
Open to all but children and clients.

Cosy Couches, Tea facilities, Internet (Face book, networked for games). Extraction fans and well controlled Circulation.
Can even make it outdoors close to the building, Kio pond, the whole thing

The smokers (And others if they wish) build, with their own money, the smoking room.
Circulation is not rocket science and the construction for the room can be cheap.

If in a room: Proper circulation greatly reduces ambient smoke. If done properly, there in less first and second hand smoke being inhaled by everybody in the room. Employees that smoke will smell less of smoke than they would if they were smoking in a normal room or building. Most non-smokers are not greatly bothered by the smoke smell that remains after proper circulation reduces it, especially compared to a normal room or building.

Hey, not all non-smokers...

(E.g. of schedule. Normal use. Before 8:00, tea, lunch, 5min each on a single rotation 3:30-5:00 and 5++)

In any business people will naturally push boundaries, just have a strict but fair policy concerning the use of the room.

The room should function as a general room for anything, it just happens to be a smoking area.

http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigar-room/
http://www.ehow.com/how_6017624_desi...king-room.html

[pmbguy]

+ A twin facility for non-smokers