NWO has SA in its sights. (part 1)

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  • pmbguy
    Platinum Member

    • Apr 2013
    • 2095

    #16
    Main stream media in the US is used for the purposes of propaganda, it always has. Don’t think it’s just the US, each country will use its media to its own benefit. State influence will differ in degree, but it is pervasive throughout the world.

    Here is what I posted in another thread some time ago:
    Originally posted by pmbguy
    It is not so difficult to peek through the diplomatic cloak. I look for the “factual interactions” between states, to provide me with information to ascertain Real foreign policy posture. By “factual interactions” I mean stuff like business deals, trade relations, who are in dept to whom and so on.

    Another way is to look at how geo political enemies use their propaganda. E.g. CNN and RTT. The two channels are polar opposites. Each takes shots at the other while pushing their own agendas. Between the two bull shitters lies the half truth. You will see the mistakes of the West on RTT and their successes on CNN. You will see Russia's successes on RTT and their failures on CNN.

    The ubiquitous diplomatic blanket is accepted as normal. People seem to be very comfortable consuming edited vetted bullshit info from main stream media without considering the reality. People then absorb this “information” and make important business decisions partly based on their world view that is, at the very least, inaccurate
    So I agree fully with the notion that mainstream media is nothing more than propaganda. Such news channels are informative, but ultimately corrupt.

    However I disagree with the conclusion that main stream media propaganda is proof of a new world order, as proposed by conspiracy theorists. The propaganda is used by the US to keep the status quo, it is not used to create some new world order.
    It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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    • Trickzta
      Email problem

      • Feb 2013
      • 462

      #17
      Subliminal messages play a role in mind control.

      So how can something that we don't notice affect our behavior? Well, unheeded doesn't mean unseen. Let us first understand how our perception works. As you know, our mind consists of two interacting parts: conscious and subconscious. The subconscious part of mind operates below the level of conscious awareness, it controls reflexes, automatic functions and handles the processing and storing of incoming information. Subconsciousness is able to process 20,000 bits of information simultaneously, while consciousness can deal only with 7 ± 2 bits of information at the same time.

      That is not being said that subliminal messages determine your reaction in an inexorable manner. The accepted opinion is that subliminal messages rather strengthen, accelerate and reinforce reactions in persons who are ALREADY PREDISPOSED to the subject of the message. But I guess one can't be sure.
      subliminal messages, sex, Hidden Message, suggestive,


      Jonathan Adampants gives a full in-depth analysis of the mind manipulation and NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) techniques utilised by Mainstream Media.
      Jonathan Adampants gives a full in-depth analysis of the mind manipulation and NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) techniques utilised by Mainstream Media. This example is from Fox News anchors Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes during an interview with Kevin Barrett about 9/11. But make no mistake, these techniques are used throughout Mainstream


      How linguistic programming works:


      Plain Old Propaganda.

      If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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      • iLLuDeano
        Bronze Member

        • Sep 2013
        • 124

        #18
        Ok so the NWO....

        The thing here is that South Africa is one piece of the puzzle. The bigger picture is Africa. The leading world governments or "people" need a gateway. That is what South Africa and Kenya presents. End of the story. Remember we are looking to advance Africa and get it on track with the rest of the world. They need our resources and manpower... If our governments use this to their advantage the next big global power might just be an African country. I have much to say on this subject, but that's just some thoughts that came up.

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        • iLLuDeano
          Bronze Member

          • Sep 2013
          • 124

          #19
          Another thing. Tec0...you are right, trying to inform people about this matter is a rough road. People like their bubbles, and the awakend folk need to do their part. Don't ever mind the opinions of the ignorant, an opinion is just an opinion, every fkn chop has one

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          • Trickzta
            Email problem

            • Feb 2013
            • 462

            #20
            Originally posted by pmbguy
            Main stream media in the US is used for the purposes of propaganda, it always has. Don’t think it’s just the US, each country will use its media to its own benefit. State influence will differ in degree, but it is pervasive throughout the world.

            However I disagree with the conclusion that main stream media propaganda is proof of a new world order, as proposed by conspiracy theorists. The propaganda is used by the US to keep the status quo, it is not used to create some new world order.
            Yup pmguy, I agree that propaganda is not proof of a NWO. Nice question, thanks for the reply.

            Propaganda serves many purposes and can be used for diverse reasons. Propaganda could be used as a tool to prepare the masses for the NWO.

            UN Agenda 21 is nicely worded with catch phrases like ‘sustainable development’ but it’s just a clever way to say that land must be State-owned. The section below is taken from a pdf; Point 1 is where the trouble starts.

            The Vancouver Action Plan
            64 Recommendations for National Action
            Approved at Habitat: United Nations Conference
            on Human Settlements, Vancouver, Canada
            31 May to 11 June 1976
            Recommendations from the Vancouver Plan of Action, June 1976
            D. Land
            (Agenda item 10 (d))
            Preamble
            D.1 Land resource management
            D.2 Control of land use changes
            D.3 Recapturing plus value
            D.4 Public ownership
            D.5 Patterns of ownerships
            D.6 Increase in usable land
            D.7 Information needs
            Preamble
            1. Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human
            settlements, cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals
            and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land
            ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of
            wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may
            become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development
            schemes. Social justice, urban renewal and development, the provision of
            decent dwellings-and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if
            land is used in the interests of society as a whole.

            2. Instead, the pattern of land use should be determined by the long-term
            interests of the community, especially since decisions on location of activities
            and therefore of specific land uses have a long-lasting effect on the pattern and
            structure of human settlements. Land is also a primary element of the natural
            and man-made environment and a crucial link in an often delicate balance.
            Public control of land use is therefore indispensable to its protection as an
            asset and the achievement of the long-term objectives of human settlement
            policies and strategies.

            3. To exercise such control effectively, public authorities require detailed
            knowledge of the current patterns of use and tenure of land; appropriate
            legislation defining the boundaries of individual rights and public interest; and
            suitable instruments for assessing the value of land and transferring to the
            community, inter alia through taxation, the unearned increment resulting from
            changes in use, or public investment or decisions, or due to the general growth
            of the community.

            4. Above all, Governments must have the political will to evolve and implement
            innovative and adequate urban and rural land policies, as a corner-stone of
            their efforts to improve the quality of life in human settlements.
            Return to [Top] [Action Plan] [Information Habitat]


            We will rise one morning to find that things have changed and we’ll be powerless and possession-less and penniless.


            When propaganda is used to promote the slaughter or murder of people I see it as a threat.
            "Dr. Henry Kissinger proposed in his memorandum to the NSC that "depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World." He quoted reasons of national security, and because `(t)he U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less-developed countries ... Wherever a lessening of population can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resources, supplies and to the economic interests of U.S.

            Depopulation policy became the top priority under the NSC agenda, Club of Rome and U.S. policymakers like Gen. Alexander Haig, Cyrus Vance, Ed Muskie and Kissinger. According to an NSC spokesman at the time, the United States shared the view of former World Bank President Robert McNamara that the "population crisis" is a greater threat to U.S. national security interests than nuclear annihilation.In 1975, Henry Kissinger established a policy-planning group in the U.S. State Department's Office of Population Affairs. The depopulation "GLOBAL 2000" document for President Jimmy Carter was prepared.


            Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been proposing, funding and building Bio-Weapons Level 3 and Level 4 labs at many places around the U.S. even on university campuses and in densely populated urban locations. In a Bio-Weapons Level 4 facility, a single bacteria or virus is lethal. Bio-Weapons Level 4 is the highest level legally allowed in the continental U.S.

            For what purpose are these labs being developed, and who will make the decisions on where bio-weapons created in these facilities will be used and on whom? More than 20 world-class microbiologists have been murdered since 2002, mostly in the U.S. and the UK. Nearly all were working on development of ethnic-specific bio-weapons (see Smart Dust, Roboflies &).
            More from the link above
            More on this subject later.
            If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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            • Trickzta
              Email problem

              • Feb 2013
              • 462

              #21
              Sorry to say, this isn't theory, it's fact.

              Read up on "depopulation" and "eugenics" and you'll find this has been their MO for centuries, periodically "culling the herd" with wars and epidemics, gutted economies and famines, all while keeping the world in one form of social slavery or another. It's nothing new. It's just that the expanding growth of humanity is accelerating at such a rate, our numbers frighten them, and besides, they want all those resources for themselves.

              Have you noticed they tend to hoard slightly? The Rothschilds alone are worth an estimated 500 trillion dollars... with a 'T'. The queen of England and the Vatican could bail out AND support half the world.

              They're not real big on sharing if you haven't noticed, yet they make you feel guilty for devouring the earth's resources.

              Why believe anything they say?
              If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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              • pmbguy
                Platinum Member

                • Apr 2013
                • 2095

                #22
                As a certainty the human population will reach a stage where the earth can’t sustain us anymore. So you know what I say?... Viva depopulation Viva! Viva weeding out the gene pool Viva!
                It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                • tec0
                  Diamond Member

                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4624

                  #23
                  Originally posted by pmbguy
                  As a certainty the human population will reach a stage where the earth can’t sustain us anymore. So you know what I say?... Viva depopulation Viva! Viva weeding out the gene pool Viva!
                  You don’t need population control all you need to do is legalise suicide... That said consider this. Would you really want to be someone’s slave? Because that is what it comes down to in the end of the day. That the point of the NWO. To cripple economies so that they can get to resources with minimal resistance using slave labour.
                  peace is a state of mind
                  Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                  • Trickzta
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                    • Feb 2013
                    • 462

                    #24
                    Originally posted by pmbguy
                    As a certainty the human population will reach a stage where the earth can’t sustain us anymore. So you know what I say?... Viva depopulation Viva! Viva weeding out the gene pool Viva!
                    Pmguy you sure have a strange way of acknowledging this theory as fact. But that is good news. Even better news is that the Viva Brigade is first in line.
                    If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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                    • Trickzta
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                      • Feb 2013
                      • 462

                      #25
                      The CIA is going to save the world. Yeah right.

                      The American CIA is a terrorist organization, operating both internationally and domestically


                      A brief history of CIA involvement in the Drug Trade by William Blum
                      Most of this page concerns the CIA's involvement in drug trafficking, but we should first note that this is only one part of its activities, the means by which it finances its operations in addition to the billions of dollars it gets from U.S. taxpayers courtesy of the U.S. federal government (the exact amount, of course, being kept secret from U.S. taxpayers). In addition to being the principal source of U.S. propaganda for domestic and foreign consumption the CIA is the covert operations division of the U.S. government and as such has engaged in many terrorist activities. In fact the CIA is a terrorist organization, funded by the profits of international drug smuggling.
                      Documents and links to documents concerning the activities of the CIA, especially regarding its connections to Mena and its other drug-smuggling activities.


                      Watch this video clip from DATELINE NBC. One of the main characters in the story was investigative reporter Gary Webb. Gary allegedly committed suicide in December 2004 by shooting himself TWICE in the head with a 38 caliber pistol. Yep, I said TWICE: imagine that! http://www.americandrugwar.com/media...ricky_ross.mov

                      We, ordinary Americans, can not trust the C.I.A. Inspector General to conduct a full investigation into the CIA or the DEA. Let me tell you why. When President Clinton (June, 1996) ordered The Intelligence Oversight Board to conduct an investigation into allegations that US Agents were involved in atrocities in Guatemala, it failed to investigate several DEA and CIA operations in which U.S. agents knew before hand that individuals (some Americans) were going to be murdered.


                      From 1971 to 1973, Negroponte was the officer-in charge for Vietnam at the National Security Council under Henry Kissinger. During that period, former DEA Michael Levine was conducting undercover operations in Saigon, Thailand, and Cambodia where our government was smuggling heroin into the U.S. Our government was utilizing caskets and body bags of those "Killed In Action" to smuggle in the heroin.
                      If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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                      • pmbguy
                        Platinum Member

                        • Apr 2013
                        • 2095

                        #26
                        @Trickzta – I am acknowledging certain facts. It has always been the policy of stronger countries to exploit weaker ones. This goes back to the beginning of human kind. Why you guys think this is something new is a bit silly. It should not be called the new world order, it should be called business as usual.

                        Remember that SA exploits other weaker countries in Africa, Zim is a good example. The weaker they get the stronger our negotiation position becomes, which leads to us procuring cheap “unfair” contracts, where Zim is not getting nearly as much out of the deal as they should if it was “fair”.

                        I don’t believe in the new world order conspiracy, because the evidence for it simply points to how things have always been.
                        It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                        • Trickzta
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                          • Feb 2013
                          • 462

                          #27
                          False Flag event planned by the CIA. This one never happened. The sinking of the Lusitano (WW1), Pearl Harbour (WW2), WMD (Iraq), and others did happen. Recently attempts to pin False Flag events on Syria (chemical weapons) and Iran failed.

                          The following is taken from declassified files from the 1960’s. The Operation Northwoods documents were approved in writing by the Joint Chiefs of Staff – the top generals of each branch of the US armed forces – and submitted to the Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. The only reason they weren't implemented is that the Kennedy administration rejected the plans.

                          A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces.

                          A. Incidents to establish a credible attack:
                          (1) Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.
                          (2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.
                          (3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.
                          (4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).
                          (5) Blow up ammunition inside the base: start fires.
                          (6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
                          (7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base.
                          (8) Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.
                          (9) Capture militia group which storms base.
                          (10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires – naphthalene.
                          (11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims.
                          A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
                          We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington

                          http://www.wanttoknow.info/010501operationnorthwoods
                          If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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                          • Trickzta
                            Email problem

                            • Feb 2013
                            • 462

                            #28
                            Originally posted by pmbguy
                            @Trickzta –I don’t believe in the new world order conspiracy, because the evidence for it simply points to how things have always been.
                            Always is a long time pmguy. The NWO is an old plan that is ready for the final phase to be implemented. Almost ready, but, due to people waking up they have to push their agenda sooner than they would like or they will most certainly fail. They’ll fail anyway I sincerely hope and pray.

                            China is the experimental model that they plan to impose on the world. Socialism, communism, military rule, NWO, call it what you like. It translates to everything belonging to the state, there won’t be countries or nations, there won’t be religions as we know them, nobody will own any property, not even their bodies or their children.

                            Total enslavement imposed by drones in the skies and robotic enforcers with AI (artificial intelligence) on land to terminate resisters and free thinkers. These robotic enforcers are still in the final stages of development, but they’re not far off from completion.

                            Small pockets of resisters hiding out would be wiped out by weather controlling techniques, man made floods, droughts, heavy snowfalls or hurricanes.

                            One Government with total control over life and death, to rule over all mankind is what is planned. Not the strong nation/s taking advantage of the weak nation/s, but absolute power over everyone is their goal.

                            I’m not sure what ‘evidence’ you say points to how things have always been. Maybe you would like to share that evidence with us all?
                            If the outcome of a vote is unknown then voting is tantamount to gambling. If the outcome of a vote is known, then voting is futile. Robert Rorschach.

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                            • pmbguy
                              Platinum Member

                              • Apr 2013
                              • 2095

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Trickzta
                              China is the experimental model that they plan to impose on the world. Socialism, communism, military rule, NWO, call it what you like. It translates to everything belonging to the state, there won’t be countries or nations, there won’t be religions as we know them, nobody will own any property, not even their bodies or their children.
                              How can you say China is the experiment? China have always been a communalistic society, long before communism. Where the will of the individual is superseded by the will of the community. This is in contrast to western individualistic ideals. Now China is the way it is because it’s the way it has always been. Its communalistic outlook was perfect for the later communism. Its society is naturally and historically geared towards a totalitarianism, its in their nature as it were.

                              But my biggest problem with your statement is this. If China is a NWO experiment it would mean that they are in cahoots with the West. This is impossible since they are GEO political enemies. So can you possibly say that China is the experiment?
                              It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                              • Justloadit
                                Diamond Member

                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3518

                                #30
                                Why is everyone so worried, the Aliens will save us. Battlestar Galactica to the rescue.

                                Don't write off the human spirit. A small well organised group of saboteurs would break the alliance, by striking at strategic targets.One of the main targets would be a power station, no power no coms, no food, no control.
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