Death penalty, why not?

[pmbguy]

In the end there where a few factors granted. Not saying that I am wrong. See if did any kind of research you will find the words "The Reign of Terror" Now what happened in this time frame? You are the expert you tell me.

I have actually read extensively about the French revolution, it’s fascinating.

Yes there was a reign of terror in France during the French revolution. I never said anything to dispute that. The guillotine was used to kill thousands of people, I never disputed that.

But again you are trying to sidetrack the argument by playing the victim. You stated that the guillotine caused the French revolution, I stated that it did not. It was used in the “reign of terror” only after the revolution was well on its way.

Not saying that I am wrong

You are totally wrong

Don’t see this as a personal attack, I would have corrected anybody who held your incorrect view on the matter.

[adrianh]

there is no need for private debate. Keep to the topic at hand within the forum.

[pmbguy]

I think that the Guillotine is the perfect execution device. It is a painless death, the entire procedure is quick. It requires relatively little expertise to use. It is relatively cheap and totally reusable, it needs very little maintenance and it is mobile. It is also tried and tested, with an extremely low fail rate.

Another added bonus of using such a machine is that it will be feared much more than say an injection would, because you head gets chopped off. The fear alone of having your head removed if you commit murder will definitely make anybody think twice before they pull the trigger on somebody.

The one negative that I foresee is that some religions, like the Rastafarian religion, believe a person must die whole in order to reach the afterlife. In such examples the person should have the option of another method. This in itself may be problematic since those who don’t want to get chopped may convert to one of these religions during death row.

Despite some issues, like the example above, I think it is the most appropriate method of execution. It actually gives me the creeps, which is good because I fear it and that is exactly what it should do. People should fear being under the blade.

[ians]

I think it would be a lot better and more stress relieving if you could stone people to death, especially if the crime was on a family member, or better still if the relatives could beat the criminal to death with whatever device they feel would take the longest and inflict the most pain, without the person passing out, until death, or if the family members are not barbarian enough themselves they could hire the services of someone who gets satisfaction from it. It would have to be a public event for all to see, so that criminals get to see and fear their fate other wise it is a waste.

[pmbguy]

Shit Ian you hardcore, but I understand, especially given what happened to your family. Personally I would make sure the FU**** gets off and does not go to jail. Pay a cop to lose the docket etc. Then I would pedantically set up a plan to take care of him personally, a nice long walk in the bush during a rain storm.



I think that executions should be done in a way that the prison population witnesses it. This way you get to target those who are most likely to commit murder and end up under the blade themselves. In fact I would have the executions in a giant modified hall where I can safely fit in as many prisoners in as possible.

I don’t think that executions should be public (outside of the prison population). I certainly would not want my daughter to see an execution.

[ians]

I think it should be public and a small fee charged, it would be a get rich quick scheme, people love to see stuff like this. Don't say they don't, whenever there is an accident everyone slows done to see if they can see something and then when they do they go ooooh F^&* I didn't want to see that, but they actually did that's why they slow down in the first place. Like the old Gladiator days, people loved all the killing.

In saying that, I don't believe young children should be allowed to view it.

By the way PMB, I spent almost 20 months in a bush war and then 9 months in the townships (what a waste of my youth), it not about my family. However in saying that, just reading some of the murder cases and torture people have to endue, it wouldn't be difficult punishing those kind of criminals.

One bonus about crime in this country, you will notice in certain cases they seem to resist arrest, end up in a shootout with well trained people who don't miss.

[pmbguy]

Shoot 4 times. Double in the chest, once in the head then once in the air as a warning shot.

You know I used to hunt, but it lost its lustre a bit. But I would make an exception to bag myself a good tsotsi specimen.

[pmbguy]

I think it should be public and a small fee charged.

That’s actually a brilliant idea, the whole thing can pay for itself.

[ians]

Never shoot a person more than twice, otherwise you gona need a very good lawyer and a lot of money. Maybe go 15 rounds instead you could get a job as the chief of police or even better, shoot everything you have and become the Independent Police Investigative Directorate.

Judges don't like excessive of anything, unless you are well connected.

[wynn]

Now here is a thought, if the guillotine caused the French Revolution then it stands to reason that the cross caused Christianity...

As an interesting aside: if Jesus had his head lobbed off using guillotine would all Christians be walking around with little guillotines around their necks?

And the killing of 'Mpimpi's' with a burning tyre around their necks started a democracy? shouldn't cANCer members have little tyres around their necks?

[pmbguy]

And the killing of 'Mpimpi's' with a burning tyre around their necks started a democracy? shouldn't cANCer members have little tyres around their necks?

But Wynn they already have tyres around their necks, caused by the large amount of fat deposits from all the bucket feasts

[adrianh]

And the killing of 'Mpimpi's' with a burning tyre around their necks started a democracy? shouldn't cANCer members have little tyres around their necks?

For sure: They should call it: their Saint Winnie medallion

[Dave S]

...have to clean up and face things like blood born diseases...

This would probably be the biggest problem with "Public Beheading", the guys who clean up would probably be working for the government anyway, so the clean up will take years...

[Dave S]

Whatever method, the death penalty should return, and it should be public. We could have a TV program "The Death Scrolls" with one of those "not for sensitive viewers..." (you know you're gonna watch it anyway) messages, and broadcast all "death sentence events" on all channels, with repeats every 2-hours and all day Friday, so that these criminal bastards know we want their blood...

[Jacques#1]

This wont happen as long as the current government is in power, theyll never go for it, half of them would be fearing for their lives??