Death penalty, why not?

[pmbguy]

this execution is profound so much so that it started a rebellion and effectively rewrote history.

I can only assume that you are referring to the French revolution. The guillotine started a rebellion?....LOL. The guillotine was used extensively during the French revolution and became one of its symbols. BUT by no stretch of the imagination can anybody say that it started the rebellion/revolution.

I can just imagine your “reasoning” here. Flashes of the Revolution Flashes of the Guillotine Blood Blood Guillotine Revolution........Conclusion: The French revolution was caused by the guillotine....guillotine causes rebellion...guillotine bad, where is my bong?

[tec0]

I can only assume that you are referring to the French revolution. The guillotine started a rebellion?....LOL. The guillotine was used extensively during the French revolution and became one of its symbols. BUT by no stretch of the imagination can anybody say that it started the rebellion/revolution.

I can just imagine your “reasoning” here. Flashes of the Revolution Flashes of the Guillotine Blood Blood Guillotine Revolution........Conclusion: The French revolution was caused by the guillotine....guillotine causes rebellion...guillotine bad, where is my bong?

Really ok let me post this here then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

The Committee of Public Safety came under the control of Maximilien Robespierre, a lawyer, and the Jacobins unleashed the Reign of Terror (1793–1794). According to archival records, at least 16,594 people died under the guillotine or otherwise after accusations of counter-revolutionary activities.[72] A number of historians note that as many as 40,000 accused prisoners may have been summarily executed without trial or died awaiting trial.[72][73]

On 2 June 1793, Paris sections — encouraged by the enragés ("enraged ones") Jacques Roux and Jacques Hébert – took over the Convention, calling for administrative and political purges, a low fixed price for bread, and a limitation of the electoral franchise to sans-culottes alone.[74] With the backing of the National Guard, they managed to persuade the Convention to arrest 31 Girondin leaders, including Jacques Pierre Brissot. Following these arrests, the Jacobins gained control of the Committee of Public Safety on 10 June, installing the revolutionary dictatorship.[75]

On 13 July, the assassination of Jean-Paul Marat — a Jacobin leader and journalist known for his bloodthirsty rhetoric — by Charlotte Corday, a Girondin, resulted in further increase of Jacobin political influence. Georges Danton, the leader of the August 1792 uprising against the King, undermined by several political reversals, was removed from the Committee and Robespierre, "the Incorruptible", became its most influential member as it moved to take radical measures against the Revolution's domestic and foreign enemies.[75]

Meanwhile, on 24 June, the Convention adopted the first republican constitution of France, variously referred to as the French Constitution of 1793 or Constitution of the Year I. It was progressive and radical in several respects, in particular by establishing universal male suffrage. It was ratified by public referendum, but normal legal processes were suspended before it could take effect.[76]

[tec0]

pmbguy I cannot believe to what extend you would backstab someone to impress your friends. But this is the last time you get to backstab me.

[pmbguy]

LOL

Your copy & paste shows how the guillotine was used by the revolutionaries against people they viewed as being a threat to the revolution. The guillotine did not start the revolution, not even close. So how do you view your post (copy & paste) as evidence that the guillotine started the revolution when it clearly shows how it was used by the revolutionaries? Nowhere does your post, or any history book, mention that the guillotine started the French revolution.

It’s a failure of logic and knowledge/understanding on your part

The guillotine was used extensively as an “effect” of the revolution, not as a cause of the revolution. Stated differently: The revolution started first then the guillotine was used by the revolutionaries to excess.

[pmbguy]

You use the term “backstabbing” for any post that challenges your argument.

So according to your understanding of “backstabbing” I present another knife.

Well I could search for the video on Youtube where the sniper took out a human with a large sniper rifle. The bottom half of his body was still running when the top half was missing

Without a head you may get a few steps, BUT without a spinal cord (Top half of the body) the legs aint going nowhere. This kind of stuff only happens in movies

I don’t mean to be mean Tec, but I can’t ignore your propensity for talking nonsense.

[HR Solutions]

Tec for interest sake - it doesn't happen like that ........ Just saying. It was photoshopped.

[tec0]

Over 17,000 people were officially tried and executed during the Reign of Terror, and an unknown number of others died in prison or without trial. But according to you this played no role at all... Nah I think you are just full of it...

But you know everything so screw it...

[HR Solutions]

No not from a video - from actual experience.

[pmbguy]

Let’s clarify. You said that the guillotine led to the rebellion (referring to the French revolution).

this execution is profound so much so that it started a rebellion and effectively rewrote history.

I am deputing your statement that the guillotine started the revolution. I am not disputing its heavy use during the revolution. For some reason you view the use of the guillotine as a cause of the revolution. This is incorrect. You seem to have some trouble with the concept of cause and effect. The rebellion was not started because of the use of the guillotine. The guillotine was used by the revolutionaries to excess only after the revolution started.

[tec0]

See beheading is a bloody mess and blood triggers testosterone, aggression and anger “like you see in chickens” In shot they go crazy and in humans the same happens and you get anarchy. The needle gives an image of absolute powerlessness and psychologically pacifying the criminal mind thus they will “fear it more”

No not from a video - from actual experience.

I don't know what happens to the body but when in motion and being hit by a Barrett M82 I can imagine that it does a lot of damage. Also I can imagine that if the body is in motion that it will remain in motion for a few seconds. That was the video that was emailed to me. Also the Barrett M82 only entered into service in 1989. I can’t recall us "South Africa" having something like that so sorry you are talking kak yet again.

You said I wrote that we "humans" react like headless chickens when decapitated. There is the quotation above please read it again and tell me and everyone else where I wrote that?

So you actually run around with no head ......
Absolutely crap ..... The human body does not react like a chicen !

Above is your story. Thus it is clear you made up a story claim that I wrote it “and I didn’t” and now you want to argue about it? Why? What is your intention? Why create a situation that will only lead to conflict?

[pmbguy]

The guillotine did NOT cause the French revolution. If you can find evidence that states explicitly that it did, then I will apologise and burn my history books.

I find your response to my posts rather amusing. Instead of dealing with the topic at hand you simply cry about how I don’t read your links (which I do by the way) and piss on everything you say etc. The interesting part is that you then try and get away from your own statement by making it more general in nature

So are there arguments on the net that state that mass execution prompted a revolutionary change? Yes there is.

Here you are trying to find a more defensible position.

But remember you stated this, and this is the statement we are talking about

this execution is profound so much so that it started a rebellion and effectively rewrote history.

It is clear that you would rather claim victim status than admit that perhaps you don’t know everything. You are incapable of accepting that you can be wrong about something.

You view a response that disagrees with you as an attack, instead you should consider the possibility that the other person might be correct. You need to learn some humility and understand that just because you believe something it does not necessarily make it true.

[adrianh]

@pmbguy - are you using reason and logic - sis on you, how dare you do that.

Now here is a thought, if the guillotine caused the French Revolution then it stands to reason that the cross caused Christianity...

As an interesting aside: if Jesus had his head lobbed off using guillotine would all Christians be walking around with little guillotines around their necks?

[tec0]

The guillotine did NOT cause the French revolution. If you can find evidence that states explicitly that it did, then I will apologise and burn my history books.

I find your response to my posts rather amusing. Instead of dealing with the topic at hand you simply cry about how I don’t read your links (which I do by the way) and piss on everything you say etc. The interesting part is that you then try and get away from your own statement by making it more general in nature


Here you are trying to find a more defensible position.

But remember you stated this, and this is the statement we are talking about

It is clear that you would rather claim victim status than admit that perhaps you don’t know everything. You are incapable of accepting that you can be wrong about something.

You view a response that disagrees with you as an attack, instead you should consider the possibility that the other person might be correct. You need to learn some humility and understand that just because you believe something it does not necessarily make it true.

In the end there where a few factors granted. Not saying that I am wrong. See if did any kind of research you will find the words "The Reign of Terror" Now what happened in this time frame? You are the expert you tell me.

Secondly the idea behind my post was to illustrate that exposing people to acts of horror will have a profound effect on them. Sometimes people go mad “example would be people that come back from war” Some can put what happen behind them others can’t. Not every person is the same.

[adrianh]

tec0 - there comes a time in life when one is better off just keeping quiet irrespective of being wrong or right because further talk adds no value to a situation...

[tec0]

tec0 - there comes a time in life when one is better off just keeping quiet irrespective of being wrong or right because further talk adds no value to a situation...

get me on the live chat we can talk about it there. I have an hour we can try and resolve this or not choice is yours.