Gupta Wedding: Blue lights brigade

[Blurock]

from today's Beeld

[Citizen X]

Looking forward to the Guptagate media briefing today at 11 am

[Dave A]

Amazing. When you're in the limelight, all sorts of stuff starts turning up.

Guptas score in Joburg property valuation roll.

My favourite part of this story -

According to the report this value was a low estimate due to renovations the Gupta's made including a helipad, a swimming pool and a cricket pitch.

Falls under "community development spend" too, perhaps?

[Blurock]

So why does Zoom Zoom not tell his side of the story, or is he too embarrassed? He should be.

[Dave A]

So why does Zoom Zoom not tell his side of the story, or is he too embarrassed? He should be.

I suggest there's every possibility he had nothing to do with it.

And where's the upside of him making a statement on the subject?
(Making sure you're looking at this from his point of view)

The very best thing he can do is say nothing.
And it's worth pointing out that in so doing, he gives his "critics" a golden opportunity to hang themselves.

[Dave A]

Zuma says no to dropping his name.

"It is unfortunate that some officials and members of the public would resort to that practice of using and abusing the names of members of Cabinet in this manner to further their own ends," Zuma added.

Well that's the real problem here, I think - the civil service is accustomed enough to being told to bend the rules from on high that they're not surprised when the person contacting them is making a claim of sanction from above, and accordingly don't query it or blow the whistle on the transgression.

Which reminds me - there's an Act the President is supposed to be signing that would make whistle blowing on something like this a pretty risky business.

[Chrisjan B]

Sign the petition:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/zumas_secret_r/?bsBIJeb&v=25065

[Justloadit]

The continuous shenanigan that does go on eventually trips the very one that use it.
This is a testament to it.

Looking at the situation differently, the use of name dropping in itself also shows that there is no respect for the leadership from the subordinates, as it is assumed that no one is going to question the instruction.

Place yourself in this position, when you have no respect for another person, you will condone your actions to this person, irrespective of the outcome, as it will be justified by your disrespect for that person.

How often have you hurt someone by insulting them because you have disrespected them, even if for a brief moment?

[wynn]

Koloane (sp?) never lied when he said he was being pressured by 'Number One' because everybody knows Zuma is only 'Number Two'.

The Gupta's are 'Number One'

[Blurock]

Zuma says no to dropping his name.

I'm sure as hell not going pick it up or carry it around for him...

[IanF]

Koloane (sp?) never lied when he said he was being pressured by 'Number One' because everybody knows Zuma is only 'Number Two'.

The Gupta's are 'Number One'

Wynn that is my reading of this, wish I was wrong

[Dave A]

Gupta-linked farm milks Free State coffers.

It just gets better and better

[Citizen X]

This is a story that just won’t go away. Imagine if you in the news business and now you become the leading news!

Call me a cynic and I’ll agree but before you go the number 1 and number 2 route, you must understand the number 1’s and 2’s.

This is done Ian Flemings style..
SPECTRE(SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion). Their main members the main crew were 21 members with numbers.

Blofeld is number 1, so there are 20 other members. Should any number fail number 1 , there was swift, decisive and lethal punishment death.

Now in this case “number 1” is reportedly Zuma, it’s zama, zama time

“More Guptagate details emerge”


“PRETORIA – It’s emerged that the VIP red carpet reserved for state presidents and their deputies was rolled out for the Gupta family’s wedding guests when they made an unauthorised landing at the Waterkloof Air Force Base in April.

These details are contained in transcripts of evidence presented to the board of inquiry currently looking into the scandal.

They were revealed in an exposé by Beeld newspaper and included evidence under oath that President Jacob Zuma was personally aware of the landing.

In April, Eyewitness News revealed that a private jet chartered by the Gupta family carrying over 200 wedding guests landed at the Waterkloof Air Force Base without following normal procedures.

An investigation by government recommended swift action against several officials in the defence force and the Department of International Relations who were found to have undermined procedures.

Interviews with several Waterkloof air force officials paint a picture of bewilderment and confusion at the sight of 200 Gupta wedding guests arriving to huge fanfare at the military facility.

According to the Beeld report, Movement Control Centre Commanding Officer Daisy Mdluli said she believed the President was en route to the base when the VIP red carpet was rolled out.

The report also said a key witness in the South African National Defence Force (SANDF)’s investigation into the saga claims Zuma met former Chief of State Protocal, Bruce Koloane, and asked whether everything was on track for the flight.
According to the report, Lieutenant Colonel Christine Anderson accuses Zuma of direct involvement in the scandal in an affidavit that forms part of the record of the military’s investigation into the incident.
Security Commanding Officer Lieutenant Colonel YC Govender reportedly described how guests used cameras on the base and how personnel were prevented from entering the facility.
The initial probe began on Wednesday and will determine whether there’s enough evidence against the military officials implicated.
An earlier investigation by the Department of Justice found Koloane had said at least three times that he was following the instructions of ‘Number One’.

In the report, Anderson claims for the first time that ‘Number One’ refers to the President.

The hearing, which is taking place until tomorrow, will determine whether five officials will be prosecuted for the unauthorised landing.

At the same time, the presidency has declined to comment on reports that the President has been directly implicated in the so-called Guptagate scandal.

The Presidency’s Mac Maharaj says the matter is sub judice and no comment will be provided.”[1]

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[1] EWN: Barry Bateman: http://ewn.co.za/2013/10/03/More-details-emerge-on-Guptagate. Accessed 6 October 2013

[wynn]

And now the big question is.
"Who authorized the access to Waterkloof of the private helicopters that transported the VVIP's to Sun City?"

[ians]

All I see here is tax payers money being wasted, what are they going to achieve, point a finger and go naughty naughty don't do that again. What I would like to see is the balance sheet of what this wedding cost us, in use of civil servants and now the investigation. We all know nothing is going to come of it, or someone will take the fall, get a 10 year jail sentenced, spend a night in a hospital and be on medical parole by the end of that week and out shopping by the weekend.