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  • Citizen X
    Diamond Member

    • Sep 2011
    • 3411

    #1

    Making your own Country 'ungovernable!'

    Prof Snyman, the leading criminologist in South Africa, in my opinion, defines public violence as follows:
    “Public violence is the unlawful and intentional performance of an act or acts by a number of persons, which assumes serious proportions and is intended to disturb the public peace and order by violent means, or to infringe the rights of another.


    (1) an act

    (2) performed by a number of persons
    (3) which assumes serious proportions
    (4) which is unlawful, and
    (5) intentional, and more specifically, includes an intention to disturb the public
    peace and order by violent means, or to infringe the rights of another”
    Now call me crazy but if one threatens to make one’s very own country ungovernable you cutting your nose off to spite your face. In much the very same way as police brutality needs to stop and police needs to deal with crowds in a manner not similar to the apartheid government so too does the way in which we protest need to change. The under-pinning’s here is ‘Constitutional democracy!’ Just go and tell mad bob you going to make his country ungovernable and see what he does to you!!!
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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22803

    #2
    And this is the future problem they're creating for themselves:

    SOME pupils watched in horror as neighbours, friends and even their parents burnt down their school. Other pupils took part in destroying the school - the only secondary school in the area.Yesterday pupils of Tlotlang Thuto Middle School in Bona Bona near Morokweng in North West appealed to the government for help.

    http://www.citypress.co.za/SouthAfri...tests-20120827

    Stupid enough at the best of times. Bloody moronic when your aim is to get to govern...
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    • AndyD
      Diamond Member

      • Jan 2010
      • 4946

      #3
      "The government must stop watching children's education been blown away by the wind."

      I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read that.

      Looks like another generation of people going uneducated that will be protesting for government handouts in a few years time. I wonder if they'll also set fire to their kids school and keep the cycle rolling.
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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #4
        Aye well, the cANCer taught them to burn down schools. They are only doing what they were taught by their leaders. Now the cANCer has its hands full trying to untrain them....

        I think its quite funny that people would burn down a school and then pitch up to be taught...I mean: How's your brain...

        Its just them burning the trains and then waiting for the train the next morning...eish...

        Another thought...Where is the cANCer joooths leeg, why don't they go and march and toi toi in that province, I mean, the cANCer is doing a really bad jop there.

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        • Citizen X
          Diamond Member

          • Sep 2011
          • 3411

          #5
          High Treason: With the ‘boeremag,’ been found guilty of high treason, it’s an interesting exercise to revisit this definition as used in our high court: Prof Synman defines high treason as follows: “A person commits high treason if, owing allegiance to the Republic of South Africa, he unlawfully engages in conduct within or outside the Republic with the intention of :
          a)Overthrowing the government of the Republic;
          Coercing the government by violence into any action or inaction;
          Violating, threatening or endangering the existence, independence or security of the Republic or;
          Changing the Constitutional structure of the Republic.”
          Now, call me crazy, but if any says, “I’m going to make the Western Cape ungovernable, to me this means, kids won’t be able to go to school, employees won’t be able to go to work, property will be damaged, law and order will be disrupted, people will be preventing from using public roads and engaging in lawful trade and other lawful activity..Isn’t this a crime of high treason???
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          • Citizen X
            Diamond Member

            • Sep 2011
            • 3411

            #6
            Kuruman, Parents are preventing their own kids from going to school because of service delivery concerns such as quality roads! We treated the textbook saga or debacle very seriously! Is this not as serious? In the first instance, those shady characters threw books away, here we have parents stopping their own children from going to school. So I ask you, who is better or worse from the characters who dumped the books to the parents who today are adamant that they won't send their kids to school until they get roads!
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            • adrianh
              Diamond Member

              • Mar 2010
              • 6328

              #7
              Leave them, let their children be as stupid as them, it's their choice.

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              • Justloadit
                Diamond Member

                • Nov 2010
                • 3518

                #8
                Adrian,

                True, but stupidity breeds contempt and contempt breeds civil unrest, civil unrest leads to total destruction of the country. Not a place any one of us would like to be in.
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                • Blurock
                  Diamond Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 4203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vanash Naick
                  High Treason: With the ‘boeremag,’ been found guilty of high treason, it’s an interesting exercise to revisit this definition as used in our high court: Prof Synman defines high treason as follows: “A person commits high treason if, owing allegiance to the Republic of South Africa, he unlawfully engages in conduct within or outside the Republic with the intention of :
                  a)Overthrowing the government of the Republic;
                  Coercing the government by violence into any action or inaction;
                  Violating, threatening or endangering the existence, independence or security of the Republic or;
                  Changing the Constitutional structure of the Republic.”
                  Now, call me crazy, but if any says, “I’m going to make the Western Cape ungovernable, to me this means, kids won’t be able to go to school, employees won’t be able to go to work, property will be damaged, law and order will be disrupted, people will be preventing from using public roads and engaging in lawful trade and other lawful activity..Isn’t this a crime of high treason???
                  I agree, this is treason. Why does the Government not see it as such and act upon it? Because the ANC is playing political games and want Cape Town at all costs. The ANCYL is the ANC's instrument, but their indiscipline is already coming back to bite the ANC.
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                  • Citizen X
                    Diamond Member

                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3411

                    #10
                    I get that people are angry with poor service delivery, I get that we have issues but in much the same way as you would never say you'll make your own house unmanageable or your own business unmanageable, it's absurb that anyone can threaten to make the place when he/she lives and works and all his/her family/friends live and work 'ungovernable!' You can't threaten your own self, people need to realise that such actions will only harm you at the end of the day. Even the hawker who doesn't even have a total inventory of R3000 for the month and only sells sweets, chappies, some loose cigarretes and perhaps some fruit knows that when such activity starts , they can't feed themselves and their family for those days!
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                    • Citizen X
                      Diamond Member

                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3411

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justloadit
                      Adrian,

                      True, but stupidity breeds contempt and contempt breeds civil unrest, civil unrest leads to total destruction of the country. Not a place any one of us would like to be in.
                      How very true, Justloadit! It's this very contempt that we must in earnest try to prevent..
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                      • Blurock
                        Diamond Member

                        • May 2010
                        • 4203

                        #12
                        41 Schools in the Northern Cape remain closed because of "service delivery" protests. Parents are preventing their own children to study because they have a gripe against government?! How crazy and stupid can you be?

                        I believe in cause and effect. Every action has a counter reaction. The effect of this is that they will stay disadvantaged for another 10 generations. Stupidity can not be taught.
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                        • IanF
                          Moderator

                          • Dec 2007
                          • 2680

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blurock
                          The effect of this is that they will stay disadvantaged for another 10 generations. Stupidity can not be taught.
                          Stupidity is encouraged which is sad. When will people learn the lessons and improve and change behaviour from mistakes. To me it looks like never.
                          Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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                          • adrianh
                            Diamond Member

                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6328

                            #14
                            Stupidity can not be taught.
                            When stupid people teach then stupidity is taught.

                            The cANCer teaches stupidity every day, so do many of the unions and so do many teachers.

                            When you teach a child, or any person for that matter, to destroy their own infrastructure when they don't get their way then stupidity is taught. The cANCer taught the parents to do this against Apartheid and now the parents are teaching their children to do it against the cANCer. This is called the the cANCer cirle, stupidity goes round and round becomes more powerfull the faster it spins.

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                            • wynn
                              Diamond Member

                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3338

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vanash Naick
                              You can't threaten your own self
                              I have come across a few self mutilators and suicide threats in my life, it seems it is a desperate cry for attention.
                              If attention is not forthcoming the threat often gets carried out with tragic consequences.

                              I just fear that when the local township decides to carry out the threat it doesn't include me or mine.
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