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  • Citizen X
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    • Sep 2011
    • 3411

    #211
    Originally posted by tec0
    mmmm Old school is one thing... Everyone enjoys oldies but then there is this stigma of our past that simply has to be talk about to the point where it feels like a slap in the face. But that seems to be the point as of late.

    Pity... I wish we can move on from this point in time but it seems to people don’t want others to go on with their lives. It always has to be about apartheid it MUST be talked about in every single topic. I am just sick to death of it.

    The good book said that the children will be punished for crimes of their elders.
    Tec0, very fair point indeed! I'm merely trying to demonstrate that reggae is not just music one listens to, it's intelligent music that incorporates, history of music, history in general, the oppression of all people etc...
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    • Citizen X
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      • Sep 2011
      • 3411

      #212
      The secret to music success part 2
      Again, you can obtain a Master degree in music, looks good in a frame on a wall! It’s however no guarantee that you will release an album that millions will buy and even after your death millions more will continue to buy it.
      The grassroots recipe for music success
      I was born fatherless, I never knew my father. My mother worked very hard, but she couldn’t afford to send me to school. We don’t have education, we have inspiration; if I was educated according to the way of this world, I would be a damn fool! We were poor, we lived in Trench Town, sitting in my government yard of Trench Town, I grab my acoustic guitar and the music start playing! AND everyone contribute to our music, EVEN if it was a stranger and him tell you, ‘sing it this way,’ ‘put this word to it,’ the people make this music. We came together in 1960..” Bob Marley
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      • Citizen X
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        • Sep 2011
        • 3411

        #213
        Bubble-gum Pop keeps me very young at heart..there was a time when I was young and innocent! I’m cold and clinical now! If fact my psychiatrist has certified me as insane! She advocates that I be locked away for life at Sterkfontein in solitary confinement, with a protective head covering so that I won’t bite anyone!!!
        Many years ago, I dedicated this song to a truly Phenomenal woman..as such I’ll never dedicate this song to anyone else…
        Wouldn’t it be nice: The Beach Boys

        “Wouldn't it be nice if we were older
        Then we wouldn't have to wait so long
        And wouldn't it be nice to live together
        In the kind of world where we belong

        You know it’s gonna make it that much better
        When we can say goodnight and stay together

        Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up
        In the morning when the day is new
        And after having spent the day together
        Hold each other close the whole night through


        Happy times together we've been spending
        I wish that every kiss was neverending
        Wouldn't it be nice

        Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true
        Baby then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do
        We could be married
        And then we'd be happy

        Wouldn't it be nice

        You know it seems the more we talk about it
        It only makes it worse to live without it
        But lets talk about it
        Wouldn't it be nice

        Good night my baby
        Sleep tight my baby




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        • Blurock
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          • May 2010
          • 4203

          #214
          True romantic Vanash?
          Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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          • Citizen X
            Diamond Member

            • Sep 2011
            • 3411

            #215
            Originally posted by Blurock
            True romantic Vanash?
            It's this ideal, the quest for this mythical ‘true love,’ the vast majority of poems and songs are actually love songs. I do however have some downright violent, angry, disrespectful songs in my collection as well! Will post some of those soon!It said that certain animals lose the will to live when their mate dies!
            Look at 1 Corinthians 13:9 and in particular what it says about love
            “If I speak in the tonguesof men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
            4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
            8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
            13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”
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            • tec0
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              • Jun 2009
              • 4624

              #216
              There is just something about this song... It just stays with you

              Lacuna Coil "Self Deception"

              I'll never waste another day
              searching to find the reason
              why did I choose to play this game
              this goes too far
              I'll take no more


              I played the part and took the blame
              while you pretend nothing is real
              life turned to night as you're asleep
              blood flowing down, is this a dream?

              Liar, you tempt me

              I don't know what to do
              no guilt is in my heart
              I don't know what to do
              I'm not the reason


              I'll never waste another day
              forever lost
              no reason
              he never choose to play this game
              taken too far out of control

              Liar, you tempt me

              I don't know what to do
              no guilt is in my heart

              I don't know what to do
              I'm not the reason
              peace is a state of mind
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              • Citizen X
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                • Sep 2011
                • 3411

                #217
                The Bee Gees surmised correctly, “love is such a beautiful thing,” Bob Marley’s song “is this love,’ epitomizes this concept! I love this song, for many reasons! I discovered it in 1988, I bought my second Bob Marley vinyl lp in 1988, Kaya which was introduced in 1978.
                This music video speaks volumes, one must always appreciate that it was introduced in 1978, as such, it won’t have the added video special effects etc of the present day, I’ll tell you though, this song is a masterpiece!!!
                I proudly give you Is This Love: Bob Marley


                BOB MARLEY
                "Is This Love"

                “I wanna love you and treat you right;
                I wanna love you every day and every night:
                We'll be together with a roof right over our heads;
                We'll share the shelter of my single bed;
                We'll share the same room, yeah! - for Jah provide the bread.
                Is this love - is this love - is this love -
                Is this love that I'm feelin'?
                Is this love - is this love - is this love -
                Is this love that I'm feelin'?
                I wanna know - wanna know - wanna know now!
                I got to know - got to know - got to know now!


                II'm willing and able,
                So I throw my cards on your table!
                I wanna love you - I wanna love and treat - love and treat you right;
                I wanna love you every day and every night:
                We'll be together, yeah! - with a roof right over our heads;
                We'll share the shelter, yeah, oh now! - of my single bed;
                We'll share the same room, yeah! - for Jah provide the bread.

                Is this love - is this love - is this love -
                Is this love that I'm feelin'?
                Is this love - is this love - is this love -
                Is this love that I'm feelin'?
                Wo-o-o-oah! Oh yes, I know; yes, I know - yes, I know now!
                Yes, I know now!

                I'm willing and able,
                So I throw my cards on your table!
                See: I wanna love ya, I wanna love and treat ya -
                love and treat ya right.
                I wanna love you every day and every night:
                We'll be together, with a roof right over our heads!
                We'll share the shelter of my single bed;
                We'll share the same room, yeah! Jah provide the bread.
                We'll share the shelter of my single bed”

                I found the following very intriguing information from wiki…

                “A music video was also produced; in the video supermodel Naomi Campbell, then 7 years old, made her first appearance in the public.
                Curiously, the original multi-tracks of this song have been made available in collector's circles and on the internet.


                • Scott Matthews has the song as a bonus track on his album Elsewhere



                • In 2003, it was covered by Three Plus, a reggae music group from Hawai'i. Sung by Karl Zinsman Jr., Three Plus' album "3+ 4 U" which featured the cover, won the 2003 Na Hoku Hanohano Award (Hawaii's equivalent to 'The Grammys') for Reggae Album of the Year. Their version is also featured on the 2010 compilation album Putamayo Presents: "Tribute To A Reggae Legend: Bob Marley".

                • In 2006, it was covered by Karen Lane and Paul Malsom on their album 'Can't Help It', 33JAZZ141.


                • In the book Marley and Me, author John Grogan says that he & his wife Jenny came up with Marley's name when, during an argument about what to name their dog, Jenny walked to the tape deck and pushed play, and the song started playing.

                • A reference to the song is made in the lyrics "Just like the song on our radio set / We’ll share the shelter of my single bed" from James Blunt song "Stay the Night", the first single of the 2010 album "Some Kind of Trouble".

                • Bon Jovi's song Lay Your Hands on Me opens with the lyrics "you're ready, I'm willing, and able. Help me lay my cards down on the table", which bearly a clear similarity to Is This Love's lyrics.

                • Allen Stone performs his cover on the tour of his self-entitled album "Allen Stone".


                Last edited by Citizen X; 26-Sep-12, 04:48 PM.
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                • tec0
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                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4624

                  #218
                  “I wanna love you and treat you right;
                  I wanna love you every day and every night:
                  I wonder how many men take this song seriously; Bob wasn’t an abusive soul that can be said without giving it a second thought. I sometimes wonder what music he would have composed in this day and age seeing all the crimes against women that kind of thing.

                  A song I hold close comes from Metallica; "not the new stuff" The old stuff


                  Metallica "The Unforgiven"

                  New blood joins this earth
                  And quickly he's subdued
                  Through constant pained disgrace
                  The young boy learns their rules


                  With time the child draws in
                  This whipping boy done wrong
                  Deprived of all his thoughts
                  The young man struggles on and on he's known
                  A vow unto his own
                  That never from this day
                  His will they'll take away

                  What I've felt
                  What I've known
                  Never shined through in what I've shown
                  Never be
                  Never see
                  Won't see what might have been

                  What I've felt
                  What I've known
                  Never shined through in what I've shown
                  Never free
                  Never me
                  So I dub thee unforgiven


                  They dedicate their lives
                  To running all of his
                  He tries to please them all
                  This bitter man he is
                  Throughout his life the same
                  He's battled constantly
                  This fight he cannot win
                  A tired man they see no longer cares
                  The old man then prepares
                  To die regretfully
                  That old man here is me

                  What I've felt
                  What I've known
                  Never shined through in what I've shown
                  Never be
                  Never see
                  Won't see what might have been

                  What I've felt
                  What I've known
                  Never shined through in what I've shown
                  Never free
                  Never me
                  So I dub the unforgiven

                  You labeled me
                  I'll label you
                  So I dub the unforgiven
                  peace is a state of mind
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                  • Citizen X
                    Diamond Member

                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3411

                    #219
                    Metallica done something really novel with this song, they created a ballad. This song starts with some of the softest guitar work I’ve heard from Metallica thus far. The drum work is excellent. MP3 wise, this is a huge file for a single song i.e. 8.64 mg! They also incorporate the use of classical instruments in this song.
                    Tec0, have you attended any of Metallica’s concerts? My equivalent in kind has got to be Don Carlos and ‘Just can’t stop.’
                    “The road is long, but yes, I know, I weary and tired, but I just can’t stop to rest. I just can’t stop, NO, I just can’t stop


                    The secret to music success part 3

                    Again, you can obtain a Masters Degree in music and it will be commendable but it no guarantee that you will release an album that sells millions while you alive and even more millions after you dead! The grassroots secret to music success
                    1979 Interview
                    Q: Can reggae be copied?
                    A: “Well, you see, the way I feel about the music , it can be copied BUT is no copy to it! It’s the feeeeeeel. Me explain this to musician, them know it, but them can’t do it. He who feels it knows it” Bob Marley
                    The grassroots approach to winning a woman’s heart: Baby, “we’ll share the shelter of my single bed” Notice that he didn’t say we’ll share the shelter of my Hilton hotel bed. “single bed,’ is reference to the bed he slept in in Trench Town as a kid. This is a picture of that single bed..


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                    . My brethren and I actually had love lives in high school, we were not rich kids, now there were rich kids, but they couldn’t present Marley’s love songs with confidence, conviction and authority, we could!

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                    • tec0
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4624

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Vanash Naick
                      Tec0, have you attended any of Metallica’s concerts?
                      Back in the day I was unable to go to Metallica’s concerts. Today I wouldn’t bother going because let’s face it, they are not Metallica anymore... Just a bunch words some music a hype but they are NOT Metallica.

                      I always wanted to see Iron Maiden but that will NEVER happen...

                      Don Carlos and ‘Just can’t stop" that is old stuff happen to own a CD. His style was always something else a different type of mellow if you will. Nice song none the less.

                      then there is The Platters and yes I got the LP;

                      The Platters "The Great Pretender"

                      Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                      Pretending I'm doing well
                      My need is such
                      I pretend too much
                      I'm lonely but no one can tell

                      Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                      Adrift in a world of my own
                      I play the game but to my real shame
                      You've left me to dream all alone

                      Too real is this feeling of make-believe
                      Too real when I feel what my heart can't conceal

                      Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                      Just laughing and gay like a clown
                      I seem to be what I'm not you see
                      I'm wearing my heart like a crown

                      Too real when i feel what my heart can't conceal

                      Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                      Just laughing and gay like a clown
                      I seem to be what I'm not you see
                      I'm wearing my heart like a crown
                      Pretending that you're...
                      Pretending that you're still around
                      peace is a state of mind
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                      • Citizen X
                        Diamond Member

                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3411

                        #221
                        Originally posted by tec0
                        Back in the day I was unable to go to Metallica’s concerts. Today I wouldn’t bother going because let’s face it, they are not Metallica anymore... Just a bunch words some music a hype but they are NOT Metallica.

                        I always wanted to see Iron Maiden but that will NEVER happen...

                        Don Carlos and ‘Just can’t stop" that is old stuff happen to own a CD. His style was always something else a different type of mellow if you will. Nice song none the less.

                        then there is The Platters and yes I got the LP;
                        Originally posted by tec0
                        The Platters "The Great Pretender"

                        Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                        Pretending I'm doing well
                        My need is such
                        I pretend too much
                        I'm lonely but no one can tell

                        Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                        Adrift in a world of my own
                        I play the game but to my real shame
                        You've left me to dream all alone

                        Too real is this feeling of make-believe
                        Too real when I feel what my heart can't conceal

                        Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                        Just laughing and gay like a clown
                        I seem to be what I'm not you see
                        I'm wearing my heart like a crown

                        Too real when i feel what my heart can't conceal

                        Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
                        Just laughing and gay like a clown
                        I seem to be what I'm not you see
                        I'm wearing my heart like a crown
                        Pretending that you're...
                        Pretending that you're still around


                        1959, before my time and just on the eve of the Beatles! Real classic group, the song I most appreciate of the Platters is ‘Smoke gets in your eyes,’
                        ‘The great Pretender,’ story of my life! I prefer Queen’s rendition of the song, though...it's still a classic regardless!

                        THE PLATTERS
                        "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes"


                        “They asked me how I knew
                        My true love was true
                        I of course replied
                        Something here inside
                        Cannot be denied

                        They, said someday you'll find
                        All who love are blind
                        When your heart's on fire
                        You must realize
                        Smoke gets in your eyes

                        So I chaffed them, and I gaily laughed
                        To think they would doubt our love
                        And yet today, my love has gone away
                        I am without my love

                        Now laughing friends deride
                        Tears I cannot hide
                        So I smile and say
                        When a lovely flame dies
                        Smoke gets in your eyes

                        Smoke gets in your eyes”
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                        • Citizen X
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                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3411

                          #222
                          27 March 1987, an awesome Autumn, was young and innocent, I’m very cold, very clinical at present! U2 was my favourite group of that day, the song ‘With or without you,’ and it’s tantalising lyrics come to mind! What a group! The Joshua Tree remains one my prized albums! Viz: curiosity, nostalgia etc, etc…
                          “See the stone set in your eyes
                          See the thorn twist in your side.
                          I wait for you.
                          Sleight of hand and twist of fate
                          On a bed of nails she makes me wait
                          And I wait without you

                          With or without you
                          With or without you.

                          Through the storm, we reach the shore
                          You gave it all but I want more
                          And I'm waiting for you

                          With or without you
                          With or without you.
                          I can't live with or without you.

                          And you give yourself away
                          And you give yourself away
                          And you give, and you give
                          And you give yourself away.

                          My hands are tied, my body bruised
                          She´s got me with nothing to win
                          And nothing left to lose.

                          And you give yourself away
                          And you give yourself away
                          And you give, and you give
                          And you give yourself away.

                          With or without you
                          With or without you
                          I can't live
                          With or without you.

                          With or without you
                          With or without you
                          I can't live
                          With or without you
                          With or without you.

                          yeah,
                          we' ll shine like stars in the summer night
                          we' ll shine like stars in the winter babe
                          one heart, one hope, one love

                          With or without you
                          With or without you
                          I can't live
                          With or without you.”

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                          • Blurock
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                            • May 2010
                            • 4203

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Vanash Naick
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                            The secret to music success part 3

                            Again, you can obtain a Masters Degree in music and it will be commendable but it no guarantee that you will release an album that sells millions while you alive and even more millions after you dead! The grassroots secret to music success
                            Music is a feeling, a mood. If enough people share that feeling, you may be successful. No degree required.

                            Unfortunately today, we have very bad music that is promoted by stupid DJ's and marketing agencies who are in it for the money and not the art.
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                            • Citizen X
                              Diamond Member

                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3411

                              #224
                              Originally posted by Blurock
                              Music is a feeling, a mood. If enough people share that feeling, you may be successful. No degree required.

                              Unfortunately today, we have very bad music that is promoted by stupid DJ's and marketing agencies who are in it for the money and not the art.
                              “A musical ensemble is a group of people who perform instrumental or vocal music, typically known by a distinct name. In classical music, trios or quartets either blend the sounds of musical instrument families (such as piano, strings, and wind instruments) or group together instruments from the same instrument family, such as string ensembles or wind ensembles. In jazz ensembles, the instruments typically include wind instruments (one or more saxophones, trumpets, etc.), one or two chordal "comping" instruments (electric guitar, piano, or organ), a bass instrument (electric bass guitar or double bass), and a drummer or percussionist. In rock ensembles, usually called rock bands, there are usually guitars and keyboards (piano, electric piano, Hammond organ, synthesizer, etc.) and a rhythm section made up of a bass guitar and drum kit.”(Vide Wiki.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_ensemble. Accessed 28 September 2012God according to your understanding: Blurock, when we mention Jehovah, I think it’s common cause between us that we refer to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Any group that can sing about God in a passionate manner and still cross over into mainstream music has my appreciation.
                              Raw use of instruments, passion, music genius is what comes to mind when I assess Marley’s rendition of a song praising his understanding of God. This was just before he died, it was uncut. Notice the bass guitar use, rhythm guitar use and vocals and tell me what you think??


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                              • tec0
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                                • Jun 2009
                                • 4624

                                #225
                                Now “A perfect Circle” to me was really deep and mellow at the same time but you really need to have an open mind to the imagery especially in some of their songs. Now This song I feel is worth highlighting.

                                Freedom of Choice... it is self explanatory but sometimes we need to be reminded and this song just sinks in somehow.



                                A Perfect Circle Lyrics "Freedom Of Choice"

                                We're victims of sedition on the open sea.
                                No one ever said life was free.
                                Sink, swim, go down with the ship.
                                Just use your freedom of choice.

                                I'll say it again in the land of the free
                                Use your freedom of choice, freedom of choice.

                                In ancient Rome
                                there was a pawn
                                who followed along
                                and watched it fall
                                he cast a stone
                                he felt secure
                                he felt that he would never be heard.

                                Freedom of choice
                                it's what you've got
                                Freedom of choice

                                You're given a voice
                                you don't want it
                                seems to be the rule of thumb
                                don't be tricked by what you see
                                you've got two ways to go

                                I'll say it again in the land of the free:
                                Use your freedom of choice, freedom of choice.


                                Freedom of choice
                                it's what you've got
                                Freedom of choice...

                                In ancient Rome
                                there was a pawn
                                who followed along
                                and watched it fall
                                he cast a stone
                                he felt secure
                                he felt that his voice would never be heard.


                                Freedom of choice
                                it's what you've got
                                Freedom from choice
                                it's what you want.

                                Freedom of choice -
                                it's what you've got.
                                Freedom from choice.
                                It's what you want.

                                Freedom from choice
                                It's what you want.
                                Freedom from choice.

                                peace is a state of mind
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