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[Derlyn]

Have you noticed that nobody gets the flu or cartches a cold anymore? Is it because of social distancing and wearing masks to stop the spread when sneezing?

In my humble opinion, no.

If a mask can prevent the flu virus from spreading, why then does it not prevent tipkaf from spreading ?

Peace out ... Derek.

[adrianh]

In my humble opinion, no.

If a mask can prevent the flu virus from spreading, why then does it not prevent tipkaf from spreading ?

Peace out ... Derek.

What the F... is tipkaf?

You keep referring to this word?

I have never ever heard anybody use this word nor seen it used anywhere?

[Derlyn]

What the F... is tipkaf?

You keep referring to this word?

I have never ever heard anybody use this word nor seen it used anywhere?

The illness previously known as flu. tipkaf.

Like Blurock said. You never hear or see anyone having flu anymore.


It's now called something else.

Peace out .. Derek

[adrianh]

You say this in one post:

"If a mask can prevent the flu virus from spreading, why then does it not prevent tipkaf from spreading ?"

Then you say this in another:

"The illness previously known as flu. tipkaf."

....ja well no fine...

[tec0]

A while back we had a situation where a customer just wanted to be right regardless of facts, or the fact he owed us a large amount of money. He dreamed up every situation so that he doesn't have to pay. However normally we ask a deposit and it covered 90% of the cost. So the amount lost in this situation was still harsh BUT we could handle it.

A few days later he came back and wanted more work done. Now we just stated that they are still owing and no work will be done. He then said he will take it some place else. Well good luck with that... A few days later my competition phoned me ask me about this customer. The order was really large AND they don't charge a deposit and that is dangerous. So i told them that this customer still owed us money. He then stopped the work and phoned the customer and told them to come and pay a deposit of 50% first. Now this time around he didn't want to pay the deposit and used all kinds of excuses, most of it "made up" and that is the point to this story.

See the moment they call something by another name, somehow magically it doesn't "work that way anymore" it doesn't play by the rules. Giving it some other strange name justify their actions and so on and so forth. In the end this customer had to come back to us, paid us in full because every call i got from my competitors i just told them the customer did owe us money. So regardless of his name calling and attitude and all that, he had to come back and do the right thing.

This virus is deadly it claimed a lot of lives and precautionary steps is a must to keep everyone safe. The sad part here is, we have to tell a 62 year old why a mask is important. Why being in public without one is dangerous and basically against the law. i mean really? i still can't believe it.

This pandemic is going to stay with us for a long time. Its not going away unless people start working towards that goal. One would think that advancements in communication and social media should aid us in this time. It really should be humanity against this pandemic and yet we still somehow ended up fighting amongst ourselves rather then taking on this pandemic.

I am sure everyone saw the YouTube videos of grownups behaving like children in places of business. Well at this point it is clear, you can call this pandemic anything else, get clever names for it that no one understands just to feel superior BUT like the customer i had in the above situation, eventually they had to come back pay us the money. Why? Because regardless of their justification the facts stood firm and they couldn't change it. They knew they where in the wrong.

In the end of the day this pandemic is real. It is dangerous, it is deadly.

[Derlyn]

A while back we had a situation where a customer just wanted to be right regardless of facts, or the fact he owed us a large amount of money. He dreamed up every situation so that he doesn't have to pay. However normally we ask a deposit and it covered 90% of the cost. So the amount lost in this situation was still harsh BUT we could handle it.

A few days later he came back and wanted more work done. Now we just stated that they are still owing and no work will be done. He then said he will take it some place else. Well good luck with that... A few days later my competition phoned me ask me about this customer. The order was really large AND they don't charge a deposit and that is dangerous. So i told them that this customer still owed us money. He then stopped the work and phoned the customer and told them to come and pay a deposit of 50% first. Now this time around he didn't want to pay the deposit and used all kinds of excuses, most of it "made up" and that is the point to this story.

See the moment they call something by another name, somehow magically it doesn't "work that way anymore" it doesn't play by the rules. Giving it some other strange name justify their actions and so on and so forth. In the end this customer had to come back to us, paid us in full because every call i got from my competitors i just told them the customer did owe us money. So regardless of his name calling and attitude and all that, he had to come back and do the right thing.

This virus is deadly it claimed a lot of lives and precautionary steps is a must to keep everyone safe. The sad part here is, we have to tell a 62 year old why a mask is important. Why being in public without one is dangerous and basically against the law. i mean really? i still can't believe it.

This pandemic is going to stay with us for a long time. Its not going away unless people start working towards that goal. One would think that advancements in communication and social media should aid us in this time. It really should be humanity against this pandemic and yet we still somehow ended up fighting amongst ourselves rather then taking on this pandemic.

I am sure everyone saw the YouTube videos of grownups behaving like children in places of business. Well at this point it is clear, you can call this pandemic anything else, get clever names for it that no one understands just to feel superior BUT like the customer i had in the above situation, eventually they had to come back pay us the money. Why? Because regardless of their justification the facts stood firm and they couldn't change it. They knew they where in the wrong.

In the end of the day this pandemic is real. It is dangerous, it is deadly.

Eish !

I am now being compared to a disgruntled client.
Couldn't you come up with anything better.
Maybe some stats on mask wearing which is the subject of this debate.

You would have noticed that not once during this debate have I tried to get anyone not to wear a mask.
It is your decision whether you wear a mask .
It is my decision whether I wear one.

My parting shot:

Sweden

1. No lockdown.
2. No draconian manditory mask wearing regulations.
3. Schools not closed.
4. Businesses not closed.
5. No mask wearing in schools.
6. No ruined economy.
7. No excess deaths recorded during the last 12 months in Sweden.

What sayeth you ?

Sorry, I do not need one person who has been brainwashed by the MSM to try and get me to wear one
when the whole of Sweden has shown me that it aint necessary.

Peace out .. Derek

[adrianh]

This is going in painful circles - round and round and round!!!!!!

[Derlyn]

This is going in painful circles - round and round and round!!!!!!

Don't worry Adrian

I said it was my parting shot.

Peace out ... Derek The end. Hope it made for some good entertainment.

[tec0]

Maybe some stats on mask wearing which is the subject of this debate.

Yea i have hoped to end this now for a while but yea here we are...

As for me not taking time to bring you facts, well in your own words:

It really is not necessary to do a search on your side of the coin. It is pushed down everyones throats 24/7 by the MSM.

You made it very clear you are not interested.

But yea i digress, Enjoy your life, and do what is right for you. Just remember consequences are a thing.

[Justloadit]

Eish !

I am now being compared to a disgruntled client.
Couldn't you come up with anything better.
Maybe some stats on mask wearing which is the subject of this debate.

You would have noticed that not once during this debate have I tried to get anyone not to wear a mask.
It is your decision whether you wear a mask .
It is my decision whether I wear one.

My parting shot:

Sweden

1. No lockdown.
2. No draconian manditory mask wearing regulations.
3. Schools not closed.
4. Businesses not closed.
5. No mask wearing in schools.
6. No ruined economy.
7. No excess deaths recorded during the last 12 months in Sweden.

What sayeth you ?

Sorry, I do not need one person who has been brainwashed by the MSM to try and get me to wear one
when the whole of Sweden has shown me that it aint necessary.

Peace out .. Derek

It depends on which article you wish to select as your reference.

Check here Why Sweden is failing at Covid-19, despite its neighbours’ success

Sweden baffled much of the world – and its neighbours - by not imposing a lockdown at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.

It reversed tack in December last year.

By that time, however, its death rate per capita was one of the highest in the world, and it had three times more confirmed Covid-19 cases than Denmark, nine times more cases than Finland and six times the cases of Norway.

Dewan says that Sweden’s initial strategy was more than a failed policy decision – it was due to a belief in Swedish exceptionalism.

or here - COVID-19 and the Swedish enigma

The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences' independent review of the available evidence
validates WHO's recommendations to keep a physical distance, wear a face mask, keep rooms ventilated, avoid crowds, and practise good hand and respiratory hygiene.
However, not until Dec 18, 2020, did the government give directives to start to translate more of these recommendations into practice including the use of face masks,
as the trajectory of rapidly rising cases and deaths continues and intensive-care facilities and the health-care professionals are stretched to the limits in many regions in Sweden.

[Derlyn]

It depends on which article you wish to select as your reference.

I never used an article as a refererance.

My information comes directly from my nephew, Gavin Stuart, who works, lives and plays in Ucklum, Sweden.

Peace out.

[tec0]

This is going in painful circles - round and round and round!!!!!!

Yea this is not going to end anytime soon.

[tec0]

I never used an article as a refererance.

My information comes directly from my nephew, Gavin Stuart, who works, lives and plays in Ucklum, Sweden.

Peace out.

i don't get you. You ask for information and then dismiss it?

Dude at this point in time do whatever you want...

Everyone knows this thing is real, millions have lost millions and this pandemic is changing. Things are getting worse not better. I mean do you really want a level 4 or even level 5 lock down again?

the facts stand... The facts will stand long after this thread...

Coronavirus: 'Double mutant' Covid variant found in India

15 more COVID-19 deaths & 965 new infections reported in SA

South Africa Set to Tighten Curbs to Preempt Third Wave of Virus

well there are some more links for you to ignore.

But as i stated before, you will not change your mind until you come face to face with this thing. i really hope that doesn't happen and you will remain healthy. Despite it all i don't wish bad on you.


**edit**

i am out till next time.

i am just going to let this go now. it is important for me to have a peaceful mind when working and this is just... sad... for lack of a better word.

i hope everyone remains safe and take this pandemic seriously

[Justloadit]

I never used an article as a refererance.

My information comes directly from my nephew, Gavin Stuart, who works, lives and plays in Ucklum, Sweden.

Peace out.

One swallow doesn't make a summer

The Swedes by culture already practice social distancing, and do not really congregate in large groups, which probably has helped in their fight against Covid.
A friend of mine who has a daughter in Stokholm says otherwise. There have been a good number of Covid cases, however their medical hospitals are first world, so they are able to treating their patients with out being overloaded, which makes a difference to prevent deaths.

I have a number of friends whose parents have died due to being infected by the Covid virus. Granted that it can be due to complications introduced by Covid, but having being infected by the common flu did not cause the complications.

My father in law had a very near miss after contracting Covid last year. Had he gone into hospital, he would not have made it. He was treated at home by a very caring wife, who lost her grandmother to TB years ago. It was touch and go for approximately 4 or 5 days. He lost more than 50% of his weight in the 2 weeks he was man down. He did recover, and to date he still has some complications due to the virus.

So I do not think that you can catogorize it as being another type of flu.

Portugal after the second wave subsided, opened its borders to Spain, and with in 3 weeks had to go into lock down again, as patients were dying outside the hospitals, which were too full to take in more patients. This was no propaganda but on live News channel. What is interesting though, is that the villages and small towns did not seem to have many cases of Covid, again because of the natural social distancing that takes place due to the low numbers of folks, and many work in the agricultural sector, reducing large crowds, as opposed to the city dwellers. Tracking the cases in the villages has shown that some one brought it with them to the rural areas.

So I do not know where all this stories are coming from that it is another flu variant .

[Derlyn]

So, Peter Makoko was shoved off a flight for not wearing a mask.

I agree that he could have made his feelings known in a more orderly manner, but I still think he has got guts, more than most of us, me included.
I admire someone who stands up for what they believe in, irrespective of the consequences.

One question I have to ask all those hypocrites who applauded when he was ushered off the plane is .....
How many of you still avoid going to the beach because of the high prevalence of this sickness there ?

I bet you all go to the beach thanks to only 350 people who made a stand on Fishhoek beach. 2 days later the beaches were opened.

Before anyone, especially my childish friend who loves giving away lollipops, responds, watch the video and more importantly
read the comments.

99% of the comments praise Peter Makoko for his stand. I think that the general public are starting to wake up.

It's a slow process, but it's happening.

Peace out ... Derek


Here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oZ6jmDIL-w

I know the lollipop man said he won't watch anything posted by me

Let us once more see if he is a man of hi's word. Somehow, I doubt it.