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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #31
    My dad was an orthopedic surgeon and my mom was a radiographer so I kinda grew up around medicine/ hospitals.

    ...we all expect the dentist to use clean tools, wear gloves and wear a mask - TO PROTECT US
    ...further...
    ...we expect the operating theater to be super clean and all the staff to wear PPE - TO PROTECT THE PATIENT

    ...BUT...
    ...WE DON'T GIVE A TOSS ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE ARE SPECIAL - we claim the right to do whatever the F we want, yet we do not take responsibility for the consequences of our own actions and then we have the audacity to bitch and moan about the government trying to institute common sense temporary rules to protect us from our own stupidity - When it all goes wrong we revel in the "knowledge" that we knew it was going to fail because "those other people" didn't do what they were supposed to....Go figure!

    This nonsense reminds me of stonings (you know - when people get to throw rocks at a victim) - The person dies but nobody takes responsibility - everybody make themselves believe that they had no part in the death because it was "those other people's" rocks that killed him...

    eish...

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    • tec0
      Diamond Member

      • Jun 2009
      • 4624

      #32
      Originally posted by Derlyn
      In my 62 years nobody has peed on me yet. Maybe I've just been lucky. Gonna try my luck for another 20 years or so.

      Peace out .. Derek
      Rocking out to a bit or Metallica, song is called nothing else matters. Highly recommend it.

      See normally i would get a bit snarky and try to make you see that wearing a mask really does save lives. But at this point i realized despite the sadness that many has expressed here you will continue on. Well best of luck to you. I really do hope you stay healthy,

      so yea peace out...
      peace is a state of mind
      Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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      • ians
        Diamond Member

        • Apr 2010
        • 3943

        #33
        I went to the beach today ... I have'nt been there in months because ... in my view ... it is a crowded venue ... but hey my daughter loves going for an early morning (before the crowds) walk along the promenade ... all I am gona say is eeeeeish. I had my mask on when I arrived ... because it is the law ... by the time I got to the promenade I realised I was one of the very few people wearing one.

        Took my mask off ... walked onto the beach and stayed clear of everyone ... went to the Wimpy for breakfast ... at least the waiters were wearing pants ... so we didnt have to worry about getting peed on even though we were naked
        Last edited by ians; 20-Mar-21, 02:14 PM.
        Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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        • Blurock
          Diamond Member

          • May 2010
          • 4203

          #34
          Originally posted by Derlyn
          In my 62 years nobody has peed on me yet. Maybe I've just been lucky. Gonna try my luck for another 20 years or so.

          Peace out .. Derek
          Maybe not, but I bet that you have had other people's spit on your face & body as some people just cannot speak without spreading it.
          Or is their no spread when people cough near you? Do you run for cover or just take it in your stride and wipe the saliva afterwards?

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          • ians
            Diamond Member

            • Apr 2010
            • 3943

            #35
            Originally posted by Blurock
            Maybe not, but I bet that you have had other people's spit on your face & body as some people just cannot speak without spreading it.
            Or is their no spread when people cough near you? Do you run for cover or just take it in your stride and wipe the saliva afterwards?

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            DO you know why they spit in your face when they dont say it but spray it ... The person is dehydrated.
            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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            • Derlyn
              Platinum Member

              • Mar 2019
              • 1747

              #36
              Originally posted by Blurock
              Maybe not, but I bet that you have had other people's spit on your face & body as some people just cannot speak without spreading it.
              Or is their no spread when people cough near you? Do you run for cover or just take it in your stride and wipe the saliva afterwards?
              Nothing has changed for me. The only change that I have observed since TIPKAF's arrival is how people around me have become paranoid and psychotic, except for the inhabitants of Nompomelelo which is a large informal settlement in Beacon Bay. There, life carries on normally .... no mask wearing ... no social distancing and people are not dropping like flies, like someone else mentioned. No paranoia there, just normal life. My assistant, Xolani, who lives there doesn't know of anyone who has died of anything else but plain old age or maybe a car accident but nothing out of the ordinary.

              I wonder what it feels like to be paranoid. Am I missing something?

              Peace out ... Derek

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              • ians
                Diamond Member

                • Apr 2010
                • 3943

                #37
                I am in pretty much the same situation ... my assistant goes to the farm every weekend ... by monday morning he smells like has spent the weekend in a bottle store ... they party the whole weekend ... he enjoys social gatthering with family and friends ( which is why I have become paranoid of him) he is forced to wear a mask if within 1.5 of me ... regardless of our location.

                I go to the beachfront and see how people take the fact that you have to wear a mask with a pinch of salt ... I know it is outside and all that ... but looking at the shear volume of people more than a stadium would hold ... if there was a risk ... people would be getting sick.

                So here is what I have noticed ... in the begining ...around march last year there was this massive scare ... a few friends and family got sick ... weathered the storm ... some were sick for 10 days and recovered and others as long as 20 days ... the odd person died ... by like on any given day ... people are dying ... its not like people stopped dying because of covid ... it seems everyone was registered as a victim of covid

                then there was a a lull ... you heard of people getitng sick and stats were displayed ... but it almost seemed like the stats were there just to keep the ball rolling ... it even got to a point that the radio station was advertsing thousands of empty beds avaialble if you felt the need to isolate ... then it actually hit us.

                in December 2020 ... thats when it affected our family and friends directly ... people around us were dying literally by the day ... hospitals (private) were overwhelmed with patients ... there was this massive panic about over crowded hospitals ... people were told to use the governement facilities which were made available specifically for covid.

                During this period there was a massive panic because of the reality of the virus ... it was affecting people around us ... everyone was doing the right thing wearing masks keeping their distance and all the other stuff.

                But as the infection rate and deaths around us have eased ... so we have become relaxed about the whole thing ... less people are wearing masks and and generally going back to normal.

                Traffic is back to normal ... schools are open 100 % ... kids made to stand out on the road in the morning ... in the pouring rain on some days (absolutley ridiculous) ... screens installed on counters ... yet everyone drops the mask to the chin and goes to the side to talk to the saleman/women ... people using the mask as a sweat collector arond the chin ... it doesnt even cover the nose or mouth ... shopping goes on as normal ...everyone touch everything ... picking up and putting down ... everyone leans against the counters ... touching card machines even tap and go ... pins are required.

                there is talk of a third wave ... if it happens ... we will once again be caught with our pants around our ankles and by the time we catch on ... it will be too late ... by the time everyone gets back into routine it would have spread like fire.

                Its your right by law to make everyone wear a mask ... which is what I do when I have to ... but if I go into a building to visit or work ... i check if people are wearing masks ... if they are ... I do wear my mask ... but if they are not wearing a mask ... I decide if I am going to stay or leave and request permission to remove my mask ... it sounds a bit ridiculous ... asking permission if they are not wearing a mask ... but if I enter their building ... their rules apply.

                DO i wear a mask while filling up with petrol ... no ... my vehicle is higher than most ... the window is opened slightly to inform them of how much and then the card machine is passed through the small gap ... I use my own sanitizer to wash my hands once the transaction is complete and the slip is in the ash tray ...where they stay for a couple weeks ... my card is put back in my germ infected leather wallet ... which has cash ... driver license which is handed to to certain security personal to scan for entry to properties or collection from certain properties ... cards which exchange hands on average of at least 10 times a day ( I dont have accounts ... I pay for everthing on collection)

                Once again it boils down to common sense ... something which unfortuntely only applies to a small minority ... so laws are passed and enforced.

                I have modified my mask to make it very comfortable ... so if I am forced to wear it ... its is no big deal.
                Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                • Mike C
                  Diamond Member

                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2892

                  #38
                  my card is put back in my germ infected leather wallet ... which has cash
                  I am actually quite surprised that so little has been said about the potential of tranference of the virus via the cash registers.
                  No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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                  • tec0
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4624

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Derlyn
                    Nothing has changed for me. The only change that I have observed since TIPKAF's arrival is how people around me have become paranoid and psychotic, except for the inhabitants of Nompomelelo which is a large informal settlement in Beacon Bay. There, life carries on normally .... no mask wearing ... no social distancing and people are not dropping like flies, like someone else mentioned. No paranoia there, just normal life. My assistant, Xolani, who lives there doesn't know of anyone who has died of anything else but plain old age or maybe a car accident but nothing out of the ordinary.

                    I wonder what it feels like to be paranoid. Am I missing something?

                    Peace out ... Derek
                    I get it, nothing we say here will make you think twice. However... In the end, this virus doesn't need your permission to exist. It will do exactly what has been doing and regardless or your methodology/comprehension/justification/argument/whatever else, it will continue to do what it does until it is stopped. Now Coronavirus Death Toll i believe is real. A few of those numbers are friends of mine and are family of mine, people i cared about. So you do you, and i really do hope you remain healthy. i really do... But as for me, i will try to stay out of this things way. i will use my mask, i will use my gloves, i will use the disinfectant and i will try to keep my travel to a minimum. My health is already compromised enough as it is.

                    Just think carefully now... see according to you we are "just paranoid" so are you saying that the people we lost doesn't exist? At this point in time i would say consider carefully because many have lost, many are sad and many may not react as calmly. Just remember there is another very sad side to this coin.
                    peace is a state of mind
                    Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                    • Derlyn
                      Platinum Member

                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1747

                      #40
                      Some interesting facts. That is if you are interested, of course. Nobody is forcing you.



                      Peace out ... Derek.

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                      • adrianh
                        Diamond Member

                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6328

                        #41
                        Oh well....who knows - I don't care one way or another - All I want is for people to be sensible and not to get to extremes - on either side.

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                        • tec0
                          Diamond Member

                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4624

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Derlyn
                          Some interesting facts. That is if you are interested, of course. Nobody is forcing you.



                          Peace out ... Derek.
                          In the end, you can do a search and will find something that will point to the one side of the coin or the other. Why not do a search then for the other side of the coin? Or better yet ask your local doctor? See In the end if your drive is just to be right about something and outright dismiss the argument then there is no debate. There is only "you are right and the rest of us are wrong". But in saying that, you are also saying that those we lost, past away due to what exactly? What then caused their sudden departure? And it is at this point I would say, before you outright dismiss the other side of the coin, i simply ask; what claimed their lives?

                          See it is at this point, critical thinking is so very important and should not be dismissed or ignored.

                          This is the last post i will do on this matter. The rest is up to you, and in all honesty i rather take precautionary measures then take chances.

                          All this said, it is your life you do you. But i must leave you with this.

                          Your choices effect those around you, so make very sure of your actions because it is not just about you. Every person you come in contact with, in turn comes in contact with your "choices". And it is my hope you realize what that means for you and for whomever was in contact with you.
                          peace is a state of mind
                          Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                          • Derlyn
                            Platinum Member

                            • Mar 2019
                            • 1747

                            #43
                            Originally posted by tec0
                            In the end, you can do a search and will find something that will point to the one side of the coin or the other. Why not do a search then for the other side of the coin? Or better yet ask your local doctor? See In the end if your drive is just to be right about something and outright dismiss the argument then there is no debate. There is only "you are right and the rest of us are wrong". But in saying that, you are also saying that those we lost, past away due to what exactly? What then caused their sudden departure? And it is at this point I would say, before you outright dismiss the other side of the coin, i simply ask; what claimed their lives?

                            See it is at this point, critical thinking is so very important and should not be dismissed or ignored.

                            This is the last post i will do on this matter. The rest is up to you, and in all honesty i rather take precautionary measures then take chances.

                            All this said, it is your life you do you. But i must leave you with this.

                            Your choices effect those around you, so make very sure of your actions because it is not just about you. Every person you come in contact with, in turn comes in contact with your "choices". And it is my hope you realize what that means for you and for whomever was in contact with you.
                            Hello Brother

                            It really is not necessary to do a search on your side of the coin. It is pushed down everyones throats 24/7 by the MSM. The last time I listened to SAFM was the first day that they started calling themselves " your official covid 19 radio station". Yep, can you believe it, calling yourself the official covid 19 station. That's MSM for you. Brainwashing reigns supreme.

                            My doctor and I are buddies. We are on first name terms. We enjoy the same hobby ( home distilling ). Fortunately, he is one of the few doctors that has not taken everything he has learn't in the past and flushed it down the toilet during 2020. He is what I would call levelheaded. He extended the life of my mother in law by about 10 years when all the other doctors predicted that she didn't have long to live. All he did was suggested that she change her diet. It worked. She lived another 11 years.

                            He agrees with my outlook. We have had hours and hours of discussions not only about distilling but also about tipkaf. Because of the profession he's in and because he has a family to feed, he has succumbed to pressure from above and has to comply with the tipkaf protocols whilst at the office. After hours, he's normal.

                            It's extremely unfair asking me what your loved one's succumbed to. I don't know. Sorry for your loss. Really, believe it or not, I am.
                            All I can say is that if I were you and they were diagnosed with covid 19, I would seriously question how they were diagnosed, because it has been scientifically shown that the present method of testing is useless. I also urge you to think critically about this.

                            Elon Musk had 4 tests done in one day. 2 came back positive, the other 2 negative. He showed no flu like symptoms at the time. Doesn't that make you curious and want to know whether these tests are to be trusted or not ? Another question I asked my doctor was .... If the virus is in your saliva, why is it neccessary to shove that thing so far down your nose ? Why can't you just give a sample of your saliva ? He had no answer other than that is the prescribed protocol. My brother, I do think critically, but there are too many things that do not add up.

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                            I have also lost a couple of friends recently. 2 died of heart attacks, the third of cancer. Being in our age category, I consider that as being quite normal. Unfortunately, I do not know of anyone close to me that has died suddenly due to a mysterious disease.

                            Lastly, the corona virus ( Flu) has been around for years and years. My question is ..... Were you wearing a mask and gloves in 2019 and the previous years to protect yourself from getting corona or from transmitting it to others ? If yes .... great .... carry on.

                            If not ...... why now ?

                            Think critically, my brother.

                            Peace out ... Derek

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                            • adrianh
                              Diamond Member

                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6328

                              #44
                              No arguing with the "experts" I mean hell - why would anybody study Virology with such clever people as this around... I mean hell Elon Musk is the STANDARD....

                              Yeah, f...it, lets get rid of all the doctors and nurses and hospitals and sh!t like that - We have an "expert" here that can diagnose and treat everything - Reminds me of Mantu!

                              ...eish...

                              You wanna think critically - GO GET AN EDUCATION AND GO WORK IN A HOSPITAL!

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                              • Derlyn
                                Platinum Member

                                • Mar 2019
                                • 1747

                                #45
                                Nah. Mantu wasn't a critical thinker.

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