Will the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines save us? Don't be silly!!!

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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #61
    Originally posted by Derlyn
    You will have to try a bit harder than that.
    You gonna run out of lollipops soon.

    Read the following.
    Throughout Western history scholars and writers have characterized old age as a period of a second childhood and childish behavior. The second childhood stereotype has endured and finds expression in numerous works of literature, in a variety of historical contexts including ancient through contempo …


    Might be helpful.

    Peace out ... Derek
    I don't read anything that you promote - it isn't worth my time!

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    • Derlyn
      Platinum Member

      • Mar 2019
      • 1747

      #62
      Originally posted by adrianh
      I don't read anything that you promote - it isn't worth my time!
      You had a peek, I know.

      You can fool some, not all.

      Did you enjoy the article ?

      Peace out ... Derek

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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #63
        Originally posted by Derlyn
        You had a peek, I know.

        You can fool some, not all.

        Did you enjoy the article ?

        Peace out ... Derek
        You don't know me very well - No I didn't and I'm not going to. I can't be bothered with your silliness!

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        • Derlyn
          Platinum Member

          • Mar 2019
          • 1747

          #64
          Originally posted by adrianh
          I can't be bothered with your silliness!
          I cant remember sending you any lollipops.

          Then you speak about silliness.

          What a chop !

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          • Derlyn
            Platinum Member

            • Mar 2019
            • 1747

            #65
            Of strawberries, bananas and smoothies.



            * Warning* Not suitable for sensitive viewers or those who do not have an inquiring mind.

            Peace out ... Derek

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            • Blurock
              Diamond Member

              • May 2010
              • 4203

              #66
              Some people will believe anything. I am really tired of this juvenile behaviour.
              Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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              • adrianh
                Diamond Member

                • Mar 2010
                • 6328

                #67
                Originally posted by Blurock
                Some people will believe anything. I am really tired of this juvenile behaviour.
                Children like to pull faces in the mirror to amuse themselves....one can only hope that the mirror has a loose frame!

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                • Andromeda
                  Gold Member

                  • Feb 2016
                  • 734

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Blurock
                  Some people will believe anything. I am really tired of this juvenile behaviour.
                  Some people have a passion for believing ... not just anything .... but pure crap.
                  I really don't know how he has survived till now.

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                  • Derlyn
                    Platinum Member

                    • Mar 2019
                    • 1747

                    #69
                    2018. TB deaths in SA 63000. No lockdown. No draconian regulations.

                    2019. TB deaths in SA 64000. No lockdown. No draconian regulations.

                    Come 2020 / 2021 Covid 19 deaths 55340. Lockdown, draconian regulations and emergency roll out of vaccines.

                    I have a question.
                    Maybe someone can enlighten me.

                    Why is more attention not given to the prevention of the spread and cure of TB which, by the official number of deaths, seems to be the biggest killer of all ?


                    Above stats from WHO.

                    Peace out ... Derek.

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                    • Justloadit
                      Diamond Member

                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3518

                      #70
                      If there was no lock down, then the death figures would be far much higher.

                      The thing with statistics, is that one can swing the numbers to suit the narrative.

                      TB is a bacteria, where COVID is a virus, huge difference.

                      Being near someone with TB disease when they cough, sneeze, or even talk close to your face for an extended period of time puts you at risk for infection.
                      Kissing, hugging, or shaking hands with a person who has TB doesn't spread the disease.

                      An interesting study on the term "Zohnerism", it plays both ways in this thread, and any reference to statistical numbers..

                      Originally posted by Glassman
                      Glassman coined the term "Zohnerism" to refer to "the use of a true fact to lead a scientifically and mathematically ignorant public to a false conclusion".
                      Please read this short article - Bending the truth is as bad as breaking it – Zohnerism
                      Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                      Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                      • Andromeda
                        Gold Member

                        • Feb 2016
                        • 734

                        #71
                        There are many parallels. See an informed analysis.https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/1.../fmb-2020-0179

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                        • Andromeda
                          Gold Member

                          • Feb 2016
                          • 734

                          #72
                          And finally:
                          All children receive the BCG vaccine at birth in South Africa (but not in Europe and the Americas). It’s a live vaccine given to stimulate the baby’s immune system to build antibodies to protect against TB. The vaccine is protective against more severe forms of TB (like TB meningitis and TB lymph nodes) but not considered effective against Pulmonary TB. A person who’s infected (but not diseased) or has a TB contact may take a 6 month course of Isoniazid (an AntiTB drug) to prevent TB.
                          Credit: Wits University and the Donald Gordon Medical Centre. See http://www.dgmc.co.za/tuberculosis-in-south-africa

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                          • Derlyn
                            Platinum Member

                            • Mar 2019
                            • 1747

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Justloadit
                            If there was no lock down, then the death figures would be far much higher.

                            The thing with statistics, is that one can swing the numbers to suit the narrative.

                            TB is a bacteria, where COVID is a virus, huge difference.

                            Being near someone with TB disease when they cough, sneeze, or even talk close to your face for an extended period of time puts you at risk for infection.
                            Kissing, hugging, or shaking hands with a person who has TB doesn't spread the disease.

                            An interesting study on the term "Zohnerism", it plays both ways in this thread, and any reference to statistical numbers..


                            Please read this short article - Bending the truth is as bad as breaking it – Zohnerism
                            PANDA’s co-founder, Nick Hudson, was the keynote speaker at the March 2020 inaugural BizNews Investment Conference in South Africa. Watch now.


                            Please take the time to watch the above and then make an informed decision on whether there would have been many more deaths without lockdown. My informed decision is that there would not have been.


                            I have taken the time to read the article about Zohnerism.
                            Interesting but off topic.

                            It's based on a hoax. Read the first 2 words of the second sentence. Says it all. He really went out of his way to confuse his classmates.

                            I have supplied numbers from WHO. No hoax, brother. Plain language that anyone can understand.
                            I am in no way bending the truth to confuse the audience.


                            Asked a legitimate question and have yet to receive a reasonably legitimate answer.

                            Peace out ... Derek
                            Last edited by Derlyn; 19-May-21, 09:24 PM.

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                            • Derlyn
                              Platinum Member

                              • Mar 2019
                              • 1747

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Andromeda
                              There are many parallels. See an informed analysis.https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/1.../fmb-2020-0179
                              Good evening, brother.

                              I have tried my best to understand what is meant by " a synergistic or antagonistic alliance ? but have failed with distinctions.

                              Until this article is made available in language that an electrician can understand, I don't think that it will be understood by most of the general population.

                              What I did pick up, however, is that the main transmission route of this virus ( Covid 19 ), according to this article, is through cough and sneezing by an infected person. ( Page 1 of the article )

                              I would have thought that holding one's hand in front of one's mouth while coughing or sneezing would be adequate in preventing oneself from infecting someone else if you are already infected. For some or other reason, I have been wrong. I still do not know why.

                              Thank you for responding brother.

                              Peace out ... Derek

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                              • Justloadit
                                Diamond Member

                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3518

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Derlyn
                                https://www.pandata.org/time-to-reopen-society/

                                Please take the time to watch the above and then make an informed decision on whether there would have been many more deaths without lockdown. My informed decision is that there would not have been.
                                I've already watched the video.
                                As I have said before, you can swing statistics to prove your case.
                                Lets just take 2 countries which did not follow lock down, namely Brazil and India.
                                I suppose the number s being reported are incorrect then?
                                Originally posted by LA Times
                                Together, Brazil and India now have half the COVID-19 cases in the world. We speak to L.A. Times foreign correspondents David Pierson and Kate Linthicum about what the plight of these global powerhouses suggests about the spread of coronavirus around the world.

                                Originally posted by Derlyn
                                I have taken the time to read the article about Zohnerism.
                                Interesting but off topic.

                                It's based on a hoax. Read the first 2 words of the second sentence. Says it all. He really went out of his way to confuse his classmates.
                                It was not a hoax, it was an experiment to prove that carefully worded statements, accompanied by scientific data, will allow one to twist facts to suit a narrative.
                                I am feeling that this is what is being placed on social media with respect to the pandemic and vaccines.

                                Originally posted by Derlyn
                                Asked a legitimate question and have yet to receive a reasonably legitimate answer.
                                There have been a number of replies with facts, which you merely ignore, as it may not suite your current belief.
                                Could it be that we are both affected by "Zohnerism", but on opposite sides of the fence because of our beliefs?
                                Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                                Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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