Will the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines save us? Don't be silly!!!

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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #16
    "Social proof" is a really interesting concept. My one daughter spends her entire life on Reddit and we often speak about issues that are raised and the debates that follow. It is abundantly clear that specific ideas are driven by groups of people and that "democracy rule" simply means that "Those who shout the loudest are the ones in control" - I agree with you - it is just like pure marketing - if you shove an idea on people often enough they simply build that idea into their being without thinking about it.

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    • Justloadit
      Diamond Member

      • Nov 2010
      • 3518

      #17
      Originally posted by adrianh
      if you shove an idea on people often enough they simply build that idea into their being without thinking about it.
      Also known as Propoganda
      Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #18
        The problem is that our social media addicts are no longer just the receivers of Propaganda (whatever form it may take) but also the re-transmitters (knowingly and unknowingly) FB posts advertising "on behalf of" 90% of its base without their base even being aware of it.

        This is really interesting....lots we don't know about going on behind the scenes

        Folks, I’m gonna be honest with you. Over my (short) tenure covering digital privacy, I’ve seen my fair share of deeply shitty tech companies pulling

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        • Blurock
          Diamond Member

          • May 2010
          • 4203

          #19
          Bored people also like to play games on social media, inviting their friends to do a IQ test/personality test/like my dog/cat/hamster or whatever. What they are actually doing is giving away very personal information such as location, personal preferences, likes, dislikes and maybe also their friend's contact and other details. Rather not play these games on FB as they are only collecting data for advertising or other ungodly campaigns.
          Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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          • Amahle Dladsa
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2021
            • 13

            #20
            I also saw the leaked files! I am so worried!!!

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            • Amahle Dladsa
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2021
              • 13

              #21
              Originally posted by yraD63m
              Firstly, Pfizer has never manufactured a vaccine with technology that uses mRNA, but it has scaled up production capacity even as research was still under way. Secondly, Pfizer Vaccine files leaked from EU containing proof of the vaccine's potential risks. well, I am little concerned!
              I also saw the leaked files! I am so worried!!!

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              • Justloadit
                Diamond Member

                • Nov 2010
                • 3518

                #22
                Originally posted by Amahle Dladsa
                I also saw the leaked files! I am so worried!!!
                FAKE NEWS!
                Did you not see my comments earlier in this thread?
                Did you follow the links showing the fake news?


                Originally posted by Justloadit
                Where is evidence of this please?
                Making a statement with out collaborating evidence is fake news!

                The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race
                Because a company has never manufactured using a new process, does not mean that they do not have the capability to do so.
                If this was the case, there would be no new technology available.

                In future any statements made must be collaborated with evidence, either via a link or an official document which can be verified as genuine.
                Originally posted by Justloadit
                NEVER believe anything you read in social media!
                In most cases it is false, and is driving a hidden agenda.

                If in doubt do a simple Google search.

                Each citizen of this planet called Earth has the duty to verify any information before passing it on to the next citizen.
                If we do this, we will make Earth a better place.

                You are wondering, "How do I do a Google Search?"

                Simple, take the first line, or even a few lines, highlight with your mouse, right click and press the right hand mouse button and select "Copy", now open a new web page, in the search bar, right click mouse button, and "Paste" the string copied, and press enter. Google will show you what it has found. There will be a number of web sites referring to the string request.
                If the article is genuine, then pass it on, but if it is fake, then don't send it to your friends.

                Copying the first line

                10 Dead in Germany after Receiving Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine.

                Google showed
                Social media posts misrepresent Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccinations in Germany
                Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                • yraD63m
                  Email problem
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 6

                  #23
                  Hope SA can survive this epidemic!

                  It is reported that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines appear to be highly effective against the more transmissible variant of the virus first detected in Britain, but show a decreased ability to neutralize the strain now dominant in South Africa. Hope SA can survive this epidemic!

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                  • Justloadit
                    Diamond Member

                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3518

                    #24
                    Originally posted by yraD63m
                    It is reported that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines appear to be highly effective against the more transmissible variant of the virus first detected in Britain, but show a decreased ability to neutralize the strain now dominant in South Africa. Hope SA can survive this epidemic!
                    As requested before
                    So where did you find this report?
                    Doing a Google search, a number of news articles conflict whether the vaccines are effective or not.
                    The way that many news reporters have acted recently, I would prefer to be directed to medical studies stating the facts.
                    Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                    Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                    • adrianh
                      Diamond Member

                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6328

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Justloadit
                      As requested before
                      So where did you find this report?
                      Doing a Google search, a number of news articles conflict whether the vaccines are effective or not.
                      The way that many news reporters have acted recently, I would prefer to be directed to medical studies stating the facts.
                      I wouldn't worry too much about THE PEANUT GALLERY...who cares what nonsense they write...

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                      • Justloadit
                        Diamond Member

                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3518

                        #26
                        Originally posted by adrianh
                        I wouldn't worry too much about THE PEANUT GALLERY...who cares what nonsense they write...
                        Unfortunately there are still many uninformed genuine internet users, who then become aware when this type of post is highlighted, and to then start questioning in the future. The more people questioning, the less fake news will be posted.
                        Same story as throwing the star fish back in the water. It starts with ONE.
                        Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                        Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                        • ians
                          Diamond Member

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3943

                          #27
                          Let the herd enjoy their moments ... hopefully soon ... enough of them will have the shot ... and we can move on ... I can see the mask wearing trend is wearing off again and people are only wearing them were being forced to ... like entering a supermarket ... bussines is picking up ...more people are returning to work as production increases.

                          The only problem is mask and muttie sales will drop ... the herd will scatter and start to mingle and spread the word.
                          Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                          • adrianh
                            Diamond Member

                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6328

                            #28
                            My wife is getting the vaccine jab in the UK today. She is a live-in carer looking after the elderly so she is on the priority list. I think she has to go for the 2nd jab in 3 weeks time.

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                            • adrianh
                              Diamond Member

                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6328

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Justloadit
                              Unfortunately there are still many uninformed genuine internet users, who then become aware when this type of post is highlighted, and to then start questioning in the future. The more people questioning, the less fake news will be posted.
                              Same story as throwing the star fish back in the water. It starts with ONE.
                              Fair enough - you are right of course.

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                              • yraD63m
                                Email problem
                                • Feb 2021
                                • 6

                                #30
                                Are vaccines

                                A committee advised the government had grouped COVID-19 vaccines into three groups and those considered for “immediate use” were the Johnson & Johnson , Pfizer and Moderna shots. In a second group where South Africa is interested but requires more technical information are Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine and shots from China’s Sinopharm and Sinova. A third group where vaccines “may not be suitable for immediate use in South Africa” includes the AstraZeneca and Novavax vaccines. Hope all of vaccines are effective against the variant coronavirus!

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