Will the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines save us? Don't be silly!!!

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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #31
    Why do people keep posting this nonsense - Don't you have a real job?

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    • Derlyn
      Platinum Member

      • Mar 2019
      • 1747

      #32
      There's a new one doing the rounds.

      TIPKAF

      Peace out .. Derek

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      • Blurock
        Diamond Member

        • May 2010
        • 4203

        #33
        The Covid 19 is similar to the flu virus, for which there still is no cure. Therefore we can expect to have the virus around for a very long time. Prepare yourself to get your jabs with your flu vaccine on an annual basis. I have adopted a wait and see attitude as there are so many conflicting reports and speculation. Lets see what works and what not.
        Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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        • adrianh
          Diamond Member

          • Mar 2010
          • 6328

          #34
          Originally posted by Blurock
          The Covid 19 is similar to the flu virus, for which there still is no cure. Therefore we can expect to have the virus around for a very long time. Prepare yourself to get your jabs with your flu vaccine on an annual basis. I have adopted a wait and see attitude as there are so many conflicting reports and speculation. Lets see what works and what not.
          My wife has had the 1st Astra Zeneca jab a week or two ago in the UK - she should get the next one this week or next week. She seems to be fine. Her brother and his partner already had the two Astra Zenica jabs and they are fine too. His partner actually had Covid and recovered before the jabs. This is very serious stuff - My wife sends me pics from the UK all the time and the entire place is locked down and downright desolate.

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          • Derlyn
            Platinum Member

            • Mar 2019
            • 1747

            #35
            Call me uneducated. Call me what you like. I couldn't care.

            Some things take time. Plenty time. One of them is making a vaccine that works.

            Another one is making a 12 year old whisky ( Johnny Black ). It takes 12 years - period.
            Many people have tried to make it quicker, however, all have failed dismally. Time is needed and there's just no way to speed up time.

            The only way to know what the long term effects of a vaccine are, is to administer it to someone, wait 5 years and then you will know if the vaccine has had any adverse effects after 5 years of being administered. The time cannot, unfortunately be sped up.

            The vaccines now being rolled out for tipkaf have been manufactured and tested in the last nine months. Who knows what the effects are going to be next year or the year thereafter ?

            But then again, I am probably not educated enough to voice my opinion regarding vaccines, so take what I say with a pinch of salt, but check out the following.



            Peace out ... Derek

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            • adrianh
              Diamond Member

              • Mar 2010
              • 6328

              #36
              Quoting one conspiracy theory site doesn't make you an expert!

              When did you get a degree in biochemistry and virology?

              Come on dude - get over yourself.

              You speak of Critical Thinking - Critical Thinking is only useful if you have a grasp of ALL the facts - Critical Thinking does not mean to latch onto a conspiracy theory and run around telling the entire world that they are ALL wrong.

              There are too many agencies from too many countries involved for this to be a big conspiracy. ...unless of course you believe the lizard people are running each and every government, biotech company and sommer all the medical personnel all over the planet....except for Alex Jones who happens to be a Martian!

              The bottom line is that you are free to believe whatever nonsense you like, but....if you do not adhere to laws layed down to protect others from your actions then you are going to get locked up. You are welcome to brood about all this without your mask in tjoekie...

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              • Derlyn
                Platinum Member

                • Mar 2019
                • 1747

                #37
                Originally posted by adrianh
                Quoting one conspiracy theory site doesn't make you an expert!

                When did you get a degree in biochemistry and virology?

                Come on dude - get over yourself.

                You speak of Critical Thinking - Critical Thinking is only useful if you have a grasp of ALL the facts - Critical Thinking does not mean to latch onto a conspiracy theory and run around telling the entire world that they are ALL wrong.

                There are too many agencies from too many countries involved for this to be a big conspiracy. ...unless of course you believe the lizard people are running each and every government, biotech company and sommer all the medical personnel all over the planet....except for Alex Jones who happens to be a Martian!

                The bottom line is that you are free to believe whatever nonsense you like, but....if you do not adhere to laws layed down to protect others from your actions then you are going to get locked up. You are welcome to brood about all this without your mask in tjoekie...
                Like I said ... I'm not educated enough .... take it with a pinch of salt ... who mentioned conspiricy ?
                Can't you read DUDE ?

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                • Andromeda
                  Gold Member

                  • Feb 2016
                  • 734

                  #38
                  From the Daily Mail. A real newspaper with proper contact details:
                  JOHN HUMPHRYS: But this week it's hard for an old Remainer like me, waiting to have his second jab, not to muse on his referendum vote back in 2016 (bottom right: people prepare for Brexit) and wonder whether he might have voted differently if he'd known then what he knows now.
                  Vaccination against Covid saves lives. Denial of the vaccine kills people. (My emphasis)
                  It's one thing for the bureaucrats of Brussels or Whitehall to squabble over the finer details of how the Northern Ireland border might (or might not) operate. It's something else again for the EU - led by the risible figure of Ursula von der Leyen (left) - to threaten a vaccine war with the United Kingdom.

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                  • adrianh
                    Diamond Member

                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6328

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Derlyn
                    Like I said ... I'm not educated enough .... take it with a pinch of salt ... who mentioned conspiricy ?
                    Can't you read DUDE ?
                    Peace brother :-)

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                    • Derlyn
                      Platinum Member

                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1747

                      #40
                      mmmmm .....



                      Peace out .. Derek

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                      • Andromeda
                        Gold Member

                        • Feb 2016
                        • 734

                        #41
                        The RNA is published Assemblies of putative SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding mRNA sequences for vaccines BNT-162b2 and mRNA-1.pdf

                        RNA vaccines have become a key tool in moving forward through the challenges raised both in the current pandemic and in numerous other public health and medical challenges. With the rollout of vac...

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                        • adrianh
                          Diamond Member

                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6328

                          #42
                          Wasn't that information STOLEN from Moderna

                          looks like the old saying "PIRACY and REVERSE ENGINEERING is OK if it is for a 'GOOD CAUSE' " stands....

                          Last edited by adrianh; 31-Mar-21, 09:45 AM.

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                          • Andromeda
                            Gold Member

                            • Feb 2016
                            • 734

                            #43
                            Originally posted by adrianh
                            Wasn't that information STOLEN from Moderna

                            looks like the old saying "PIRACY and REVERSE ENGINEERING is OK if it is for a 'GOOD CAUSE' " stands....
                            I don't think so, they were given some of the "leftovers".

                            Also:
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                            • adrianh
                              Diamond Member

                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6328

                              #44
                              Dunno...

                              The scientists were light on details about how they acquired the Moderna sample. “For this work, RNAs were obtained as discards from the small portions of vaccine doses that remained in vials after immunization; such portions would have been required to be otherwise discarded and were analyzed under FDA authorization for research use,” they said.
                              The quote comes from this page: https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9g...code-on-github

                              Don't get me wrong: I HATE BIG PHARMA - They are a bunch of really terrible profiteers.

                              I just wonder about this saying: "There is no right way to do the wrong thing"

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                              • Derlyn
                                Platinum Member

                                • Mar 2019
                                • 1747

                                #45


                                It seems as if the Astra Zeneca is not doing what it's supposed to do.

                                It's busy killing people.

                                Ah well ! Those that do not want to admit what's happening will call Desmond a conspiricy theorist and all sorts of names. That's expected.

                                Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.

                                Peace out ... Derek

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