appealing against incapacity hearing outcome with company

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  • Deviiance
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 15

    #1

    [Question] appealing against incapacity hearing outcome with company

    What would the appeal process and procedure be for an employee to appeal against the incapacity hearing outcome by the Chairman? Do you need to appeal to the Chairman or the company HR? As I understand this is done up to 5 days after the hearing and before you submit to the CCMA.
  • Citizen X
    Diamond Member

    • Sep 2011
    • 3411

    #2
    Hi Deviiance,

    It depends on the company policy. Since it is urgent, you should call the HR department/manager and find out. Some companies have an actual appeal form, if not, write a simple letter setting out your grounds of appeal.
    “Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
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    • Deviiance
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 15

      #3
      Thank you Vanash. Should I bring this up with the Chairman or my HR department?

      If they decide to go with a dismissal do I?
      1. sign the dismissal notice, go home and submit the appeal from there or
      2.do I refuse to sign the dismissal en stay on duty?

      How does that work?

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      • Citizen X
        Diamond Member

        • Sep 2011
        • 3411

        #4
        I take it that a dismissal has not yet taken place. Have you received a notification to attend a disciplinary hearing?
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        • Deviiance
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2016
          • 15

          #5
          Originally posted by Vanash Naick
          I take it that a dismissal has not yet taken place. Have you received a notification to attend a disciplinary hearing?

          Not yet, we had the 1st evaluation today in which I was 7,42% below the 1st evaluation threshold. The company said that they cannot see a future and that all I do is cost them money, so I will need to start getting my ducks in a row for the worst. I was advised by the Chairman that it would look better in my case if I launch an appeal if the outcome is bad.

          I should get the outcome of my evaluation in the beginning of next week.

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          • Deviiance
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 15

            #6
            Originally posted by Deviiance
            Not yet, we had the 1st evaluation today in which I was 7,42% below the 1st evaluation threshold. The company said that they cannot see a future and that all I do is cost them money, so I will need to start getting my ducks in a row for the worst. I was advised by the Chairman that it would look better in my case if I launch an appeal if the outcome is bad.

            I should get the outcome of my evaluation in the beginning of next week.
            I just want to add that there is 3 evaluation periods in total, but by the looks of it they are aiming to dismiss me faster than later and I am preparing for worst case scenario.

            My thresholds are set at the following:

            September: 75000
            October: 101500
            November: 130500

            I reached 61884.94 in September.

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            • Deviiance
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 15

              #7
              I have just had my bargaining council meeting which has now been referred to arbitration.

              The same chairperson whom chaired the 1st evaluation as well as the second evaluation which led to my dismissal without notice showed up at the bargaining council as the representative for the company. When I sent through my appeal (appealing for a fair judgement due to not having a independent and fair dismissal as well as the chairman not taking my improvement into consideration after training was done) this was handled internally with Invictus (company representing my ex employer) by another lady in the same consultant.

              Is this allowed or can I argue against it in the arbitration? Bearing in mind I have no legal background and that this was a poor performance dismissal

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              • Deviiance
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 15

                #8
                Just to make it clear

                1st chairman and 2nd chairman and again today at bargaining council was the same consultant from Invictus
                Appeal judgement given by lady from same company (Invictus) as chairman

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