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  • J7J
    Silver Member

    • Apr 2011
    • 281

    #61
    Thank you Dave.

    I will limit it like that then.

    On a guide that I downloaded from the Department of Labour's website, it states the following "NB. A sole owner or partners in a business/farming operation are not regarded as "employees" as contemplated by the Act and their earnings should, therefore, not be included."

    So if I have a 100% shareholder which is the sole director, should his earnings not be included in here?

    Kindly advise.

    Thanks in advance.

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    • Dave A
      Site Caretaker

      • May 2006
      • 22807

      #62
      Director salaries are included in the return as a director is an employee of the company. The section you quote refers to sole proprietorships and unincorporated partnerships.
      Participation is voluntary.

      Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene Services

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      • J7J
        Silver Member

        • Apr 2011
        • 281

        #63
        Thank you so much for your answer. What if the sole proprietor earned a salary (also referred to as drawings)?

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        • Dave A
          Site Caretaker

          • May 2006
          • 22807

          #64
          Originally posted by J7J
          What if the sole proprietor earned a salary (also referred to as drawings)?
          It's not included in the WCC return of earnings.
          Participation is voluntary.

          Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene Services

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          • JenineB
            Junior Member
            • May 2012
            • 21

            #65
            Hi, I know that it has been asked before, but can not find the answer.

            One of my companies has not been assesed for the previous year (manual submission). The letter of Good standing indicate "ROE Received not yet assessed". The system does not allow me to submit the current return before the previous return has been submitted. Must I re-submit the previous year online? Will this not create a duplicate submission?

            Regards,
            Jenine

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22807

              #66
              Talk about cutting it fine

              If the previous year's return had been assessed, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be available for you to file online now (that's been my experience anyway).

              Given that the deadline is today, I'd file the previous year's return online now. Hopefully you have a copy of that manual return - I'd try to make sure I used the exact same numbers.

              If by some bizarre chance WCC ends up capturing the manual return as well, one would hope the issue would be cleared up quite easily after the fact.

              Just beat the deadline!!!
              Participation is voluntary.

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              • J7J
                Silver Member

                • Apr 2011
                • 281

                #67
                Originally posted by Dave A
                It's not included in the WCC return of earnings.
                Thank you Dave, you have been a tremendous help.

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                • J7J
                  Silver Member

                  • Apr 2011
                  • 281

                  #68
                  Hi all,

                  I know it is after the deadline, but I am going to ask anyway:

                  Is there anywhere I would be able to find some guidelines on what is included in earnings and what not?

                  I would specifically like to know about the following fringe benefits (should it be included in earnings or not):

                  1) Medical Aid Fringe Benefit
                  2) Travel allowance
                  3) Company Car Fringe Benefit
                  4) Use of motor vehicle Fringe Benefit
                  5) Cellphone allowance

                  I know that the payroll packages work these out for you, but the client sends me their payslips and I do it manually...
                  Last edited by J7J; 08-May-13, 02:23 PM.

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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22807

                    #69
                    Originally posted by JenineB
                    Will the manual ROE with barcode still be posted or is it compulsary to submit online?
                    I received my ROE forms in the post today.

                    As usual when it comes to WCC, a time travel machine would be handy.

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                    It's also worth noting that I had already filed my 2012 returns online when this form was printed.
                    I guess we're all going to be getting them then.
                    Participation is voluntary.

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                    • JenineB
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 21

                      #70
                      Hi,

                      I was wondering if anyone has been successfull in obtaining a Letter of Good Standing (LOGS) since the previous expiry date of 30/04/2013 for all LOGS. We have sent numerous reqeusts via e-mail and fax, but have not received a single reply. It is also impossible to speak to the call centre. (It seems that they are not ansering the phone).

                      The problem that we facing is that our employees are not allowed on our clients site's without the LOGS and as the site manager will not except the risk of injury to one of our employees (which is quite understandable from his point of view).


                      We also experience problems with tenders at the parastatal companies.

                      Kind regards,
                      jenine

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                      • Dave A
                        Site Caretaker

                        • May 2006
                        • 22807

                        #71
                        Jenine, if it's desperate enough and you can't go into the WCC offices in Pretoria, try contacting Johan99. It seems he helps with this stuff for a living, goes into their offices, taps his toes and kicks shins until it's done.

                        Obviously there'll be a fee (no idea what it might be, though).
                        Participation is voluntary.

                        Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene Services

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                        • Richard S
                          Full Member

                          • Mar 2013
                          • 72

                          #72
                          Hi Dave A,
                          yep, ROE forms also in our postbox last knight. Postal strike I guess.

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                          • sandyb
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 18

                            #73
                            @ JenineB

                            I was able to obtain my LOG within roughly 8-9 days which is now valid until 30.4.14. yay! You will have to follow up your emailed / faxed application with a phone call (the only time to do this is around 07:30) as they will only then log your request and verify your good standing status before forwarding your request to the person(s) handling your company who will then issue your LOG and fax it to you (they will also pop the original in the mail to you). You might have to phone 2 or 3 times but in the end it does produce results. Unfortunately you will have at least a 30 minute wait before being put through to a call centre agent.

                            Hope this helps. It does work.

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                            • Lynda
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 28

                              #74
                              Hi JenineB, I haven't had to apply for our new LOGS yet, but what I discovered when being unable to get replies out of the people who they put a link to their email on the website, I've twice emailed the webmaster and asked if the relevant person still works at the place as I've had no response, and both times it's worked magic for me. The webmaster seems to be the only person I get joy out of. Give it a try. Other thing I've done is clicked on their Facebook link and seemed to get more that way too. Methinks they LOVE Facebook and that's why the emails get ignored???? Maybe!

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                              • Calcha-Charmaine
                                Email problem
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 25

                                #75
                                Yes, the dealine was 30 April 2013, and has been extended to that date as from this year.

                                If you are having such difficulties, and need assistance quickly, you can contact us or you can phone the switchboard number 012-319-9111.

                                We can assist you, but bear in mind the website does get backlogged at times, i have found it is easier to submit after hours if this helps any.

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