WCC Annual Assesment

[AJM]

Hi All
Do anyone know what are the maximum provisional earnings for directors for the year 1/3/2013 - 28/2/2014?

[Johan99]

Similar to those for employees - R 312 480.

[Rene02]

Hi guys, does anyone know why when I try submit my ROE it says processing then says "Submission of ROE failed ... No Subclass Exists" please could someone help, I have tried calling... obviously you don't get through.

[Johan99]

Rene,

The message is a typical system error - and I doubt if the call centre would be able to resolve this for you. Hopefully you are not to far from Pretoria, because we found a one-on-one consultation is the only chance to resolve these type of problems.

[Dave A]

Hi guys, does anyone know why when I try submit my ROE it says processing then says "Submission of ROE failed ... No Subclass Exists" please could someone help, I have tried calling... obviously you don't get through.

Is it not perhaps an industry classification issue?

[Johan99]

Dave,

No, because the employer are allocated to an industry at registration.

[Johan99]

A breakfast meeting was scheduled by the South African Chamber of Commerce and Industry with the Minister of Labour this morning to provide feedback to business on labour issues. One of the points was the "Challenges experienced by the Compensation Fund including capacity to issue Certificates of Good Standing"

Unfortunately the minister could not attend but the DG - Mr Nhleko - addressed the meeting. With regard to the Compesation Fund, he conceded that there are problems but that they are working on it and an announcement would be made before the end of the month. During question time, he would not be drawn into specifics about what an employer should do when his Letter of Good Standing has expired and he has complied to all obligations in terms of the Act, but the sheer volume of enquiries meant that the Commissioner could not attend to his request for a new LOGS.

In my opinion, it would be the sensible thing to announce a brief amnesty period for LOGS to allow their systems and resources to catch up with the backlog. In the interim, unfortunately, the frustration seems set to continue...

[Dave A]

In my opinion, it would be the sensible thing to announce a brief amnesty period for LOGS to allow their systems and resources to catch up with the backlog.

This idea might work better if the WCC issued a blanket extension to issued LOGS - ultimately the decision to accept (or not) a presented LOGS that has expired pretty much lies in the hands of the client, not the WCC.

I should think as long as the problem is well known, and confirmed in an official statement from the WCC, all but the truly pedantic will probably allow some grace period.

[JenineB]

Will the manual ROE with barcode still be posted or is it compulsary to submit online?

[J7J]

Similar to those for employees - R 312 480.

On the annual maximums - do you split that up to a monthly max or do you keep it as the annual limit? Ie. for 2012/2013 the annual maximum is R292,032 per person. That works out to R24,336 per month. Do I limit the income per month or per year? Say an employee earns R250,000 for the year, but one month, say April 2012, he received R40,000. So the annual total is below the annual maximum. So do add the R40,000 to the April 2012 amount or do I only add R24,336 (which will make the annual total R234,336 instead of R250,000)?

Please advise.

Thanks!

[Dave A]

It's an annual return with an annual income threshold.

On the posted returns side - I certainly haven't received any forms in the mail. I'd assume they're not coming by default at this point.

[J7J]

It's an annual return with an annual income threshold.

Thank you. Does this mean if a certain employee earns say R100k per month and this employee was the only employee, the return would look like this:

Mar: Number:1 Earnings: R100,000
April: Number: 1 Earnings: R100,000
May: Number: 1 Earnings: R92,032
June: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
July: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
August: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
September: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
October: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
November: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
December: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
January: Number: 1 Earnings: R0
February: Number: 1 Earnings: R0

Thank you in advance.

[Dave A]

Are you doing the return online?
They don't ask for that monthly breakdown anymore.

EDIT: But looking at my payroll program report (Quickpayroll), that's exactly how my payroll program has handled it.

[J7J]

For the one client that I am assisting - their safety officer will go and submit manually. So I printed the one from their website to see what information I need to send through to the client. On that form the breakdown is monthly. From what I know it looks similar to returns from previous years. How did you limit the earnings in your previous years' returns? Did you limit similar to my example above or did you put the monthly maximum earnings of R24,336 for all 12 months to equal the annual limit?

I am recommending online submission to the other client that I am assisting.

Thank you for your advice!

[Dave A]

How did you limit the earnings in your previous years' returns? Did you limit similar to my example above or...

As per your example above. Fortunately I can blame it on my payroll program if it's wrong (but I really think it is the right way to do it - these payroll program folk do seem to research their stuff fairly thoroughly).