Get Windows 10

[profgary]

I agree with you Chrisjan. I have installed Gwx Control panel a couple of months ago and I got rid of Microsoft's harassment. NO more pop-ups, NO more mention of Windows 10. The link I used http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta...rol_panel.html - same program as your link.

[irneb]

Yep, that GWX (and similar) is a definite MUST to prevent MS from installing its malware without you even noticing.

Just in: Microsoft accused of Windows 10 upgrade 'nasty trick'

And then (as usual) the next day: Microsoft U-turn on 'nasty trick' pop-up

We've seen this before haven't we?

[irneb]

Woman wins $10000 judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

And so it begins. Sounds a lot like the Vista fiasco. Wonder when the "free downgrades" are going to roll out.

[EAB]

I am not an IT guy, but from personal experience I would say stay away from it. Had to format and reload everything after W10 installed.

[polpak]

Last week upgraded a friend of a friends exceeding slow and sluggish Windows 7 computer, to Linux openSUSE Leap 42.1 (x86_64) 64-bit.

Able to recover almost all of every document and image for her.

She is very happy, with my friend for asking self to do it, as she feels it now runs at light speed in comparison, able to do everything she previously was doing faster, and the software was all free ;-)



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[irneb]

I think a lot more people are going to move to that sort of arrangement. Either Linux (for those on a budget) or Apple.

Again, MS shows just how they can make all their customers very unhappy: http://www.pcworld.com/article/31003...ry-update.html

And the lawsuit floodgates are squeaking open it seems: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...e-upgrade-push

[irneb]

Oh! Blind hell! Just got round to reading this too: http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/27/12...s-10-uwp-steam

So then, for most, the only reason to stay with Windows (i.e. because of gaming being "better" there) is going out the window too. What reason does anyone (at least on average) have left for staying with such an operating system? You can already run most of Steam's games in Linux, and for those which you can't there's always Wine/PlayOnLinux.

[ians]

Going into 2020 ...looks like i will have 2 laptops no longer supported by windows.

I am still running XP pro on my netbook and now my office laptop has windows 7 which will no longer be supported... come jan 2020 (that just sounds so cool 2020 )

Bought a new laptop for my daughter which has windows 10 ...we chose the one we did because it offered free microsoft free for 1 year... a month later a message pops up ...please not e your session will expire in 24 hours... please pay xyz ... the sad part is the new laptop is slower than my 1986 netbook with windows xp ... maybe i nee dto take it to someone in the know who can make sure it is setup ptoperly.

any suggestions ...for us suckers enjoying windows 7?

[Blurock]

I can only come to the conclusion that MS are a bunch of money grabbers not interested in their customers.
Having installed Office 365 in January, I was forced to purchase a new subscription on 1st Aug so that I could get access to my files. Now I get a new message that my subscription has expired and my licence is no longer valid. Bunch of wankers!

[ians]

Reeding forums and stuff ...seems people are moving over to linux and apple... i have 2 iphones and an ip and very happy with them ...my iphone 5 is still working ...the only reason i had to upgrade to an iphone 5s ...to get ios updates... sounds like MS...money money money ...someone offered me more than i paid for my iphone 5s to buy my iphone 5 in mint condition... maybe it will become a vintage

How bad could it be moving over ?... i read your PC with increase in speed by a huge margin ...you wouldnt even need to install and SSD to improve the speed... which seems to be a must if you go to windows 10 and it clearly states in the upgrade that it is NOT advisable to upgrade an old laptop.

I hear you cant save files etc like you could on windows 7 and before ...so they have you by the balls and some... pay ...pay ... pay.

[New Perspective studio]

be prepared for alot of confusion. First off you will need a very large amount of data avail to you windows ten absolutely nails it with background tasks and content updates ( which constantly go wrong jsut do a google search), You can adjust settings but this still doesn't really reduce the load. Secondly space. Windows ten eats a ton of space and even stores a version of your previous os after a update to roll back on ( they probably knew it was unstable after 8 id be nervous too ). You can go ahead and delete these but you just never quite get the space back. third speed. If you are running a older system then internet speed and computing speed will drop badly as this operating system is significantly heavier than 7 on resources. You can skip eight as the comment above alludes to 8 was just full of issues.

I am on 7 still and until i have no other choice i will switch to mac ( and i spent half my life telling people overblown mac is ) that is how much I hate windows 10. Dont do it Dave. 7 was their end game.

[Blurock]

Any advice offered on alternatives for windows? Cost and operating efficiency is obviously important.

[polpak]

In 2007 self started with linux to understand how it worked, so obtained four CD versions to try. Each was pleasing, self found easiest for self was openSUSE.

When decided to switch my business across decided to use the (Commercial) SUSE (acknowledge excellent support they provided) for my first years learning linux.

Later decided switch back to openSUSE where assist in trying out, provide feedbacks, with help from those developing newer applications which became part of (Commercial) SUSE.




# NON-Commercial (FREE) which am familiar with ; - )

openSUSE Forums https://forums.opensuse.org/
openSUSE Documentation https://doc.opensuse.org/



Ubuntu Documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/
Ubuntu Tutorials https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/
Ubuntu Forums https://ubuntuforums.org/
Ubuntu Local Teams https://loco.ubuntu.com/
Example Ubuntu-ZA https://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/



No particular order, other sites to help learn

https://www.theforumsa.co.za/

https://stackexchange.com/

https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/

https://www.linuxquestions.org/



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[polpak]

Which version ?

Discussing which linux version - Commercial or Free, frequently results in ongoing debates.


Find version you are comfortable with, stick to it until you understand it, so can update, upgrade, and know where to find solutions to any problems arising.


Before try another version, be sure your regular Backing-Ups to elsewhere all work successfully to recover the level you need !





Linux commands tar and scp for make it easier for various /home/username/ folders to be be compressed, then copied to other computers,hard-drives locations so available to recover essential data.

When assisting others making switch to linux was able create compressed archive of all their MS-W personal data, then recover most of it into their new linux version /home folders.

Multi-booting
Multi-booting is the act of installing multiple operating systems on a computer, and being able to choose which one to boot. The term dual-booting refers to the common configuration of specifically two operating systems. Multi-booting may require a custom boot loader.

Wikipedia explanation Multi-booting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-booting

Be sure you understand Boot, GRUB, Partitions, Multiple-Boot-Installations as these BEST done into a newly created empty Partitions !


Admit extremely nervous first time tried this, managed OK, while over decades lost everything several times using Microsoft Windows, once with O/S2, once with Linux.







# COMMERCIAL examples linux

# Ubuntu

https://ubuntu.com/pricing

Plans & pricing
Open Infrastructure support and security

Critical security fixes, telephone support and legal assurance.

# Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Red Hat Enterprise https://www.redhat.com/en/technologi...terprise-linux
Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux


# SUSE Linux Enterprise
SUSE Linux Enterprise https://www.suse.com/products/server/
Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise




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Tel: +27-11-322-8300
infosa@suse.com


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Products
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Increase availability, efficiency, & innovation

For x86-64
For IBM Power
For Arm
For z Systems & LinuxONE
For High Performance Computing
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Virtual Machine Driver Pack

Paravirtualized disk, network, & balloon drivers
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop

Office tools that work with Windows, Mac & UNIX
SUSE Linux Enterprise Workstation Extension

Use your enterprise server as a workstation
SUSE Embedded

For stable and secure purpose-built appliances, devices, and systems

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[ians]

I got to a point where i was going to throw this laptop out the window ... 500 gig hard drive full as slow as f^&k ...everytime i wanted to open a picture or download even a small file ..." sorry no space" phoned a friend who gave me a program to download windirstat ... downloaded it and now what it gave me a picture of stuff ...but who knows what i was suppose to do with it.

then i made an even bigger mistake ... i loaded a CCTV package to with with Dahua products (cameras and DVR's) not being technical minded ...i loaded the program icluding the DVR portion ...which resulted in it stroing footage ... i figued it out and removed the program and reloaded without the dvr portion.

then back to the same issues ... after months and months of removing every single photo ...video ... program which wasnt required on the laptop ... still within days it would be "full" i resorted to swiching off at the power button which would give me 35 meg and if found any other stuff to remove i would do it.

Then i needed to download a PLC program ...i got desperate ... searched youtube until i found a suggestion ...CCleaner ... dwonloaded it ran it and imagine that 390 GIG free space ...so wher edid all that space come from ... "WINDOWS TEMP FILES" ... YES ... 390 GIGS WORTH OF THEM.

Because windows kept threatening that winodws 7 was no longer supported ...i decided to start searching for "FREE" WINDOWS 10 ... i found it ... you got windows download ... make sure your windows 7 is registered and 12 hours ... ten thousand five million six hundred thousand and ten updates my computer switched on again.

So my question after all that ... what is the catch ...nothing in life if for free... is my computer gona work ... is there some hidden spyware ... has my computer now become part of the new world order ... have i just F&*ked up or will it be fine?

Its been a long night ...i need to go sleep.