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  • Hansen
    New Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 5

    #1

    Credit Check without permission

    Can a debt collector (which is not registered with the council for debt collectors) do a credit check on someone without permission?
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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

    #2
    Interesting question.

    Two thoughts came to mind.

    The debt collector is an agent of the creditor. If the creditor has permission to do a credit check at hand, I expect this could be used as the line to justify the credit check.

    My second thought is that judgements are a matter of public record. If the report contained only judgements, and did not include "adverse credit reports" (essentially non-judgement type records), a complaint of invasion of privacy probably wouldn't go far.

    I have to mention - Normally the complaint is the debt collection agency filing an adverse credit report (without notice, judgement etc).
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    • Citizen X
      Diamond Member

      • Sep 2011
      • 3411

      #3
      Where does the right to privacy originate?

      Section 14 of the Constitution of 1996 provides:

      Everyone has the right to privacy, which includes the right not to have-
      (a) their person or home searched;
      (b) their property searched;
      (c) their possessions seized; or
      (d) the privacy of their communications infringed

      Indeed, you have a right to privacy, BUt, if you believe that your right to privacy has been infringed the recourse to the law that you have or the remedy is to sue for damages in a civil court of law.
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      • Just Gone
        Suspended

        • Nov 2010
        • 893

        #4
        Can anyone please show me the law or refer it to me that prevents anyone doing a crim or a credit check on anyone? And im not talkimg about the right to privacy etc etc.
        Bearing in mind that this info is public knowledge.

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        • Citizen X
          Diamond Member

          • Sep 2011
          • 3411

          #5
          Hi KenvinB,

          In attempting to put you in the right drection, the question I ask is , has a crime being committed? and if so, what crime? I have looked at the definitional elements of various crimes and cannot realy find one that we can match to your situation. if you looking to lay criminal charges that one could argue that this behaviour falls under the general crime of 'stalking'.
          The problem with credit checks is that you have to be subsribed to itc or experian to acces their records. A better approach in in a civil court of law, sueing for damaginges for infringement of the constitutional right of privacy.
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          • Just Gone
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            • Nov 2010
            • 893

            #6
            Credit and crim checks are also done for business purposes such as myne and my wife in recruitment, u can access these recirds without being registered with transunion itc if u are in my line of work. Therefore it does not have anything to do with any crime being committed. It has to do with the fact that we HAVE to know in the security industry.

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            • Missnancyalex
              Email problem

              • Dec 2011
              • 106

              #7
              I did not know much about but please check this link
              http://www.consumerfraudreporting.or...collection.php , hopefully you will find some useful information.
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              • Just Gone
                Suspended

                • Nov 2010
                • 893

                #8
                Thats quite an interesting link Missnancy .........................

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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22807

                  #9
                  The Fair Debt Collecting Act

                  Aah - USA legislation. Not relevant to the South African situation, unfortunately.
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                  • Missnancyalex
                    Email problem

                    • Dec 2011
                    • 106

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave A
                    The Fair Debt Collecting Act

                    Aah - USA legislation. Not relevant to the South African situation, unfortunately.
                    opps sorry for that.

                    I got one more.....
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                    • Missnancyalex
                      Email problem

                      • Dec 2011
                      • 106

                      #11
                      I think it would be right



                      if not Please explain little bit more about the topic so i go in to in-depth research
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                      • nkawit
                        Bronze Member

                        • Dec 2011
                        • 184

                        #12
                        Makes me wonder , if you signup for the Transunion ITC credit check notification thing .... what can they really do if someone steals your ID and applies for credit with your details???
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                        • Dave A
                          Site Caretaker

                          • May 2006
                          • 22807

                          #13
                          That's a bit like being notified when someone logs into your online banking profile and it wasn't you - at least you can start making phonecalls...
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                          • nkawit
                            Bronze Member

                            • Dec 2011
                            • 184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dave A
                            That's a bit like being notified when someone logs into your online banking profile and it wasn't you - at least you can start making phonecalls...
                            I tried that once .... as far as I recall I didn't get very far at all, you do get a phone number and a name who is requesting the data though. I suppose if you called them you may beable to find out whats going on.

                            Alot of the times people doing credit checks enter your details in incorrectly, the details they use appears on your profile as history of names, phone numbers and addresses you've used. I've never had luck having that fixed.
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