Oscar - SA's OJ case

[Hermes14]

When WO Stander (state photographer) gave his evidence in court, Barry Roux asked his if he was the only one in the house at the crime scene.
WO Stander stood firm on his statement that he was the only one there.
After asking Stander the same question numerous times ADV Roux revealed that meta data of another set of photos & his photo showed the same time.
Barry roux proved that Stander’s Colonel was with him when he was taking the photos of the crime scene.
How will this effect Stander’s evidence he gave & can any legal action be taken against him?
Taking into account that he was most probably instructed to say that he was the only one on the crime scene.

[desA]

This case says a huge amount about how South Africans think.

A woman is dead, brutally killed at the hand of a (famous) man, using a gun loaded with deadly dum-dum ammunition.

People focus on the small details, yet miss the big picture. The answer needs to be at minimum manslaughter, moving towards various levels of murder. Not a very difficult equation to solve. In the end, the difference in effective jail time for this brutal killer, no matter the sentence, will be very little. Lock him up & be done with the charade.

[ians]

They are just trying to determine the length of time he will be sitting. Fact is he is guilty, his life was not in danger, shot through a locked door or beaten to death with the cricket bat either way it is just the sh!t levels that vary.

Only person gona walk away here with a smile on his face is the lawyer/attorney or whatever he is and his legal team, he will have mud on his smiling face because he couldnt find a loophole in the system but a much wealthier man.

If Oscar is smart he will get sick and play the sick act like most politician and their cronies for the get out of jail free card.

[Marq]

I put it to you that:-
He is charged with murder with premeditation in the shooting death of... .

That anything to the contrary,....... like not premeditated - means he will walk.

[desA]

If this killer walks free, then the SA legal system will be the laughing stock of the world.

[Hermes14]

This case says a huge amount about how South Africans think.

A woman is dead, brutally killed at the hand of a (famous) man, using a gun loaded with deadly dum-dum ammunition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon

The black talon bullet is a hollow point made for pistols.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_bullet

The dumdum is a bullet that is designed to expand on impact, increasing in diameter to limit penetration and/or produce a larger diameter wound.
They were invented in 1896 by Cpt Neville Bertie-Clay for the .303 Army assault rifle.At the time any expanding bullet designed to create a bigger wound was called a dumdum bullet.

I usually carry one magazine with full metal jacket bullet & another one with hollow points.
When travelling in my car I have the full metal jackets loaded, when going into an area where there are a lot of civillians I change magazines.
If my family, a third person or myself becomes a victim of a first scheduled offence where a threat is imminent I will use what ever force is necessary to stop the perpetrator.
My intention will be to stop the intruder not injure or kill innocent victims in the vicinity.

People focus on the small details, yet miss the big picture. The answer needs to be at minimum manslaughter, moving towards various levels of murder. Not a very difficult equation to solve. In the end, the difference in effective jail time for this brutal killer, no matter the sentence, will be very little. Lock him up & be done with the charade.

Oscar has been charged with murder.
The state is trying to prove premeditated murder.
What ever the state proves has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
This means that the defense only has to prove that there is doubt in the evidence that the state is providing. (in this case the wittnesses)

After hearing all the evidence from both parties the Judge has to determine what was Oscar’s intention when he pulled the trigger & how would a reasonable person in a sound state of mind have reacted.

Therefore it is critical that you evaluate every bit of evidence

[desA]

Ouch. Has SA come to this?

[Hermes14]

Ouch. Has SA come to this?

Although the laws have changed drastically since roman era the principals are still more or less the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_South_Africa

[desA]

SA needs a total re-write of its laws, to suit its present circumstances. Justice needs to be cascaded down to everyone... The days of an elitist legal system must surely be relegated to the trash heaps of history.

Napoleon apparently orchestrated such a re-write of French Law during his time.

[Citizen X]

This trial has many South Africans glued to the screen or radio...

[Hermes14]

QUOTE=desA;107888]SA needs a total re-write of its laws, to suit its present circumstances. Justice needs to be cascaded down to everyone... The days of an elitist legal system must surely be relegated to the trash heaps of history.

Napoleon apparently orchestrated such a re-write of French Law during his time.[/QUOTE]

Who would you like to have re-writing the new law, & how would you suggest the law be re-written?

This trial has many South Africans glued to the screen or radio...

According to carte blanche (dstv channel 199) this trial has worldwide coverage.
The advantage is it has been very educational for anyone wanting to pursue a career in South African criminal law.
The disadvantage is it has been very educational to criminals aswell.

[Citizen X]

Personally, I'm looking forward to 2 events this week, the State closing it's case and the Defence opening its case

[Hermes14]

Then it will be Adv Nel's turn to knit pick the witness’s statement & that will be interesting.
I see Oscar has had to sell his house to cover legal costs.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Os...costs-20140320

[Dave A]

The greatest obstacle to justice for all would seem to be legal fees

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

Unfortunately so. It's not so much the hourly rate, which is what many concentrate on, but the time involved.