The DA saying what we saying???

[wynn]

One wonders why the government don't listen
Even the off opp are saying what we been saying for a few years now

http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/08/14/anc-anti-small-business-da

[Dave A]

One wonders why the government don't listen

I can think of three reasons -

Self interest.
Self interest.
Self interest.

It's working bloody well for them at the moment, so what's to fix?

[Blurock]

For a brief moment in time we almost became a nation. We stood shoulder to shoulder in election queues, each voting peacefully for his or her party of choice. The euphoria of winning the rugby world cup in '95, uniting the nation was a momentous moment in our country's history.

Unfortunately, since then things have gone downhill with a corrupt government who are incapable of running a country. Corruption, entitlement and even blatant racism has become the order of the day. Crime is out of control and services are deteriorating.

In the Apartheid years a number of Afrikaners, who had benefited from the system, chose to give up their privileged status to advocate for democracy and all it stands for. Van Zyl Slabbert, Breyten Breytenbach, Beyers Naude, Max du Preez and some other activists come to mind.

Where then are the black activists who are prepared to give up their privileged status to fight for democracy? Apart from a few journalists who the government are trying to gag, there are almost no-one to speak out against the atrocities. Why is it that so many ANC supporters see the writing on the wall, complain about it, but do nothing to stop the rot. Their silence is deafening.

[Pap_sak]

Don't you think it's funny that you need to pay UIF within 7 days of the end of the month? What happens if you take a holiday? And yes, I need to wait till the end of the month to see if they earned a bonus. But next year might just average it out and pay it for the year - not as accurate, but a lot less hassle.

I do think they need to have two set of rules depending on the size of company. It's BS that as tiny sole prop I need to conform to the same rules and regs as companies that have legal, accounting and human resources departments.

And thank you to the big 4 banks:

Individuals - great deals
Large companies - great deals
Small companies and sole props: lets absolutely skew them for fee's.

[Blurock]

Mr Reuel Khoza, the Nedbank chairman, has once again lashed out at the Government and warned that South Africa may be on the path to becoming a rogue state. I applaud Mr Koza for being brave enough to speak out. For us whiteys it it is not possible to do that as we would be classed as racist Europeans who should go back to their homeland. Well, my homeland is South Africa and I'm here to stay!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/art...ate-2012-08-16

As I said in an earlier post, we need more black people to speak out and we need those black business people who are now benefiting from a corrupt system to give up their privilege and start protesting for a better South Africa. Just like a number of Afrikaners who gave up their privileged status to become activists against apartheid.

[gac]

There is no doubt that Mr Khoza is bang on the button with his views and there are many, many black South Africans who are beggining to speak out similarly. if one considers the comments being posted on social and news networks one can visibly see the groundswell in action. It's growing by the day HOWEVER for as long as the masses continue to be innocently or deliberately naeive of whats going on and cast their vote for the ANC, the plunderous rot is going to continue for quite a while I feel. Doesn't mean we should give up the fight though.

[Phil Cooper]

The trouble is that the general mentality in this country is that if you are anti-ANC, you are unpatriotic.

The ANC nurtures this - and that is (one of the) reasons that the downtrodden go on voting as before.

[Blurock]

The trouble is that the general mentality in this country is that if you are anti-ANC, you are unpatriotic.

The ANC nurtures this - and that is (one of the) reasons that the downtrodden go on voting as before.

...or racist. The truth is I am against all political parties and will never vote for any ruling party unless they have descended directly from heaven.

[Citizen X]

...or racist. The truth is I am against all political parties and will never vote for any ruling party unless they have descended directly from heaven.

Blurock, I understand all too well where you coming from! I suppose you non partisan. It's the 75 % vote in parliament that can amend in particular the bill of rights that we need to be very concerned about. I've said some nasty things about Helen Zille in my time, but now she and every member of her party gives me hope. I hope and pray that they get much more votes in the next election!!!

[Blurock]

Only by voting for an opposition party can we keep the required balance to keep a ruling party on their toes. There should always be a strong opposition to keep this balance.

They may have had noble intentions when they still had proper leaders, but the ANC has now become an arrogant, corrupt, racist party that is betraying their own people. The other parties are not much better, but if we love this country and its people we have a duty to show more patriotism and put South Africa first. Let's take our country back from the corrupt politicians.

[wynn]

an arrogant, corrupt, racist party that is betraying their own people.

That is exactly what I thought of the Nats, funny how the more things change the more they stay the same.

[wynn]

and now Mantashe is saying what we are saying

"BEE should also be about acquiring skills and learning about the operations of the company itself,"

"He said it was untenable that when the government built primary schools, it spent R20m, but when a school was donated by a company, that company spent only between R5m and R10m.

"Something is wrong in creating layers and layers of business."

He said the state was aware it gave out tenders, and the quality of the service provided was not up to scratch, pointing to the fact that newly built bridges were already being eroded."

read the whole article at http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/201...-says-mantashe

[Dave A]

Mantashe didn't think much of Khosa's comments, though:

ANC secretary-general Mantashe later lashed out at Khoza at a press briefing with the party's top six officials.

"I would be very worried if the business community begins to think that it has a monopoly of understanding of political leadership," he told reporters.

It's OK to criticise inefficient government spending.
It's OK to criticise tender irregularities.
It's OK to criticise corruption.
It's OK to criticise BEE for failing to deliver on key objectives.
But it's not OK to criticise the ANC political leadership.

The leaders are responsible for the culture of the organisation. Guess who that is?

Or isn't the ANC the "ruling party" anymore?

[Citizen X]

The ANC is doing us great discredit. They allow comments such as 'we'll make that province ungovernable!' Such threats should be treated or perceived in the same light as treason. How can you threaten to make your very own country ungovernable especially in a Constitutional Democracy? Okay, Julius Malema is now old news, but his rhetoric alternatively the ruling parties condoning it by omission is a reminder of the embarrassment this party has caused us internationally. I doubt any ANC leader will be able to even survive 1 day in a British Parliament debate. Every person sitting in that house is extremely knowledgeable on all aspects of their country including but not limited to the latest developments and possible resolutions, all aspects of economic problems and a demonstration that they understand how government works.
In stark contrast, we have jz responding to a simple question of why he didn’t do anything about mduli, he said something along these lines, ‘I can’ jump the minister and jump the deputy minister. He should have said, as of this moment, he is fired, he can take us to the labour court, and we’ll vigorously challenge him. But, apparently not, in SA you can’t ‘JUMP,’ certain people!!!

[Blurock]

That is exactly what I thought of the Nats, funny how the more things change the more they stay the same.

A politician is a politician is a politician...They are all the same!