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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #1

    ...a thought struck me last night....

    Thinking that one will make money by manufacturing and not selling can be likened to masturbating and hoping to have kids....

    Funny how my mind sometimes laterally cross-connects ideas that make perfect sense (to me at least)

    My downfall in business is the lack of sales...because I don't like to sell. The hunt is on for a freelance REP!
  • Houses4Rent
    Gold Member

    • Mar 2014
    • 803

    #2
    Or look at Peter Carruthers
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    • Citizen X
      Diamond Member

      • Sep 2011
      • 3411

      #3
      Originally posted by adrianh
      Thinking that one will make money by manufacturing and not selling can be likened to masturbating and hoping to have kids....

      Funny how my mind sometimes laterally cross-connects ideas that make perfect sense (to me at least)

      My downfall in business is the lack of sales...because I don't like to sell. The hunt is on for a freelance REP!
      That hunt should start with our very own HR Solutions
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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #4
        You know, I have great staff, great products and k@k sales. My graphic designer ROCKS. With her artistic abilities, my technical skills and the abilities of my staff we simply have to make money... I am absolutely convinced that all we need is a rep. I don't want to employ a person full time because our range does not warrant it. I just need a person who is already out there knocking on doors. I'll give them 10-15% commission.

        I personally don't want to sell and I also don't want to deal directly with the customers on a day to day basis unless the customer requires specialized work done. There are people who are natural sellers and they should be applied to do what they are good at. I just annoy the customers :-)

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        • Basment Dweller
          Silver Member

          • Aug 2014
          • 314

          #5
          Ugh sales...couldn't think of anything worse to do...hate it with a passion! I feel like I have to walk around begging for money and kissing ass, not my style, and I hate phoning people!

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          • adrianh
            Diamond Member

            • Mar 2010
            • 6328

            #6
            I can't do it. I don't like the social dance of bull$hitting one another going round and round until they agree (when I'm sober that is) Maybe that's why getting laid (sober) was so difficult. The problem is of course that if you go selling after a couple of drinks you no longer care about the sale and you end up hitting on the dog ugly lady at the till who has no say anyway :-)

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            • Dave A
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              • May 2006
              • 22803

              #7
              Originally posted by adrianh
              My downfall in business is the lack of sales...because I don't like to sell.
              Then don't sell!

              Just find people with challenges that you can solve - or help them to find you (which is called marketing), and sales start taking care of themselves.
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              • Basment Dweller
                Silver Member

                • Aug 2014
                • 314

                #8
                Originally posted by Dave A
                Then don't sell!
                Sometimes this isn't an option in small businesses, especially start ups where you have to be head of every department. Otherwise you could build up a sales team starting with a nice pretty girl with big tits and send her to collect orders from men in positions of influence. I've worked in companies where this worked very well, especially in the dirty manufacturing businesses dominated by men.

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                • Houses4Rent
                  Gold Member

                  • Mar 2014
                  • 803

                  #9
                  I also hate selling especially if its not my own product. However, if I am convinced about something and I can identify myself with (preferably have tried and tested it myself and/or still use and buy it myself) then my passion does usually the selling for me. I could never ever be a rep selling anything (crap or not) to anybody on behalf of someone.
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                  • adrianh
                    Diamond Member

                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6328

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave A
                    Then don't sell!

                    Just find people with challenges that you can solve - or help them to find you (which is called marketing), and sales start taking care of themselves.
                    For sure!

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                    • Basment Dweller
                      Silver Member

                      • Aug 2014
                      • 314

                      #11
                      Originally posted by adrianh
                      The problem is of course that if you go selling after a couple of drinks you no longer care about the sale and you end up hitting on the dog ugly lady at the till who has no say anyway :-)
                      You need to up your game brother in both the sales department AND the department of chasing tail Both essentially hoop jumping pains in the ass!

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                      • adrianh
                        Diamond Member

                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6328

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Basment Dweller
                        You need to up your game brother in both the sales department AND the department of chasing tail Both essentially hoop jumping pains in the ass!
                        Good one!

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                        • Citizen X
                          Diamond Member

                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3411

                          #13
                          salemanship is not my strong suit, the only fond memories I have of it, was back in the 80's as a teenager working at the Oriental Plaza part time. It was fun then, but to do it for a living is something else. Even then, I felt sorry for the folks who had to do it on a full time basis.
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                          • Dave A
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                            • May 2006
                            • 22803

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dave A
                            Then don't sell!
                            Originally posted by Basment Dweller
                            Sometimes this isn't an option in small businesses, especially start ups where you have to be head of every department.
                            Perhaps I did a bad job of making the point I was trying to make...

                            Yes, the small business owner typically has to generate sales. But it only has to be selling if you're trying to sell ice to eskimos (i.e. you are trying to get someone to buy something they don't want or need). If the person wants or needs your product, no selling is required. You only need to find them (or have them find you), then inform (and sometimes educate) them on how your product satisfies their need or want.

                            From there the "sale" takes care of itself.
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                            • Citizen X
                              Diamond Member

                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3411

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave A
                              Perhaps I did a bad job of making the point I was trying to make...

                              Yes, the small business owner typically has to generate sales. But it only has to be selling if you're trying to sell ice to eskimos (i.e. you are trying to get someone to buy something they don't want or need). If the person wants or needs your product, no selling is required. You only need to find them (or have them find you), then inform (and sometimes educate) them on how your product satisfies their need or want.

                              From there the "sale" takes care of itself.
                              The basics of marketing, need satisfaction, identify the market need..
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