Return of Earnings (WCC/ COIDA)

[Dave A]

No return received yet, and according to last year's notice:

If the return is not submitted to this office on or before 31 March 2011, a penalty not exceeding 10% of the final assessment may be imposed in terms of section 83(6)(b).

I received last year's notice on 29th March 2011, completed and posted it off on 30th March 2011, and when I eventually received my assessment was hit 10% for late submission.

But then that's supposed to be my fault because according to the same notice:

Kindly take note that the return of earnings, W.As.8, is mailed to all registered employers in the beginning of the year. The onus is on the employer to notify my office by the 1st of March if the return of earnings form has not been received. Forms are available on the website.

Have you notified WCC that you have not received your form yet?
And I've checked - the last W.As.8 form on the Dol website at the moment is for the 2010 year - last modified 2011-11-06.

Unfortunately the Workmans Compensation Commissioner believes in time travel. As proof I tender my last assessment received.



Date of Notice: 05.12.2011
Due date: 04.01.2012
Posted by registered mail on: 19.01.2012
Received by me on: 24.01.2012

How the heck was I supposed to pay this by 4th January 2012?

They really need a serious wake-up call.

[sandyb]

Ditto all the above. Have exhaustively trolled through their website for the latest form, but it's hopeless. Nothing there but last years. Also, submitted last years around 8 or 9 March (actually got the form on time, surprise surprise) but have been slapped with late submission anyway. Sucks.

[Christel]

We have numerous problems with WCC and it's no use to object against anything as they don't correct anything or waiver penalties & interest like SARS. I have the 2011 final 2012 provisional W.As.8 in Excel format if anybody is interested...(and can tell me how to upload the doc).. but it would be no use to complete and post to them, as they have changed to a new system and if you don't have your new ref number... they might just end up losing your form ...

[zs5zk]

Ditto all the above. Have exhaustively trolled through their website for the latest form, but it's hopeless. Nothing there but last years. Also, submitted last years around 8 or 9 March (actually got the form on time, surprise surprise) but have been slapped with late submission anyway. Sucks.

This is Fraud and Corruption by the "Workmans Commissioner and you are entitled to lay acharge of theft and fraud against the Commissioner.Every single person is benig penalised with this 10% which results in At Least 1 Billion Rand if not more. WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO ????????????????????????

[Andrevh]

The last letter of good standing we received from the Commissioner was issued to us on 10 January 2012, stating that it is good until 31 March 2012. Until then we still did not pay our COID fees for last year as we did not receive our final assessment from them. When we requested a new Letter of good standing on Tuesday this week, we received a response from them that they can not issue us a letter as an amount was outstanding (they gave the exact amount in the response). I suspect this must be our 2012 assessment that we were waiting for. However, until today we did not receive the assessment form from them.

I phoned them regarding this and the lady told me that this money was for last year's assessment which we need to pay. When I asked about the new return of earnings form (that needs to be completed by the end of this month) she said it was not send out yet. When I asked about penalties for late submissions, she assured me that they requested an extension date for submissions this year as they are changing to a new system. She also stated that no penalties will be charged as they are responsible for the delay and not us. I view this in a positive way but as we all know we don't have written proof that they will not charge us penalties etc. For now we will pay the fees for last years assessment and wait in anticipation for the issuing of the new return of earnings form. The lady also gave us our new reference number as issued by the "new" system.

Once we paid our outstanding assessment fees, we will submit a new request for a letter of good standing using our new reference number. Will see what happens then.

[DesOshea]

No return received yet, and according to last year's notice:



I received last year's notice on 29th March 2011, completed and posted it off on 30th March 2011, and when I eventually received my assessment was hit 10% for late submission.

But then that's supposed to be my fault because according to the same notice:



Have you notified WCC that you have not received your form yet?
And I've checked - the last W.As.8 form on the Dol website at the moment is for the 2010 year - last modified 2011-11-06.

Unfortunately the Workmans Compensation Commissioner believes in time travel. As proof I tender my last assessment received.



Date of Notice: 05.12.2011
Due date: 04.01.2012
Posted by registered mail on: 19.01.2012
Received by me on: 24.01.2012

How the heck was I supposed to pay this by 4th January 2012?

They really need a serious wake-up call.

Does the WCC have an ombudsman?? Surely it cannot be right how are they allowed to get away with it. All bussiness has a problem with them. Why are we paying penalties and interest for something that is not our fault. They have been penalised me once again for an assessment sent in Sept 2011. I asked the girl for proof that it has been sent. Her answer 'put it in writing'. My penalties and interest has now run up for the last 4years. All I am asking is a response to my 20 letters I have sent.