Linking the Illuminati & SARB

[Frankincense]

..and so the pieces of the puzzle shall come together...as it's written, so shall it be....all that was hidden shall be revealed....

And so we see who owns: ABSA - Today, 2mw, foreva???

Some would then think to move their accounts elsewhere, once familiarising themselves with the Rothschilds' ethics concerning Banking. Here a bit of history and quotes for those who plead ignorance still and for those who revel in the truth:
"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes it's laws" Mayer Amschel Rothschild - Founder of Rothschilds banking dynasty
"This remarkable coup could only have been achieved by a complex series of dealings, many of which were encased in a secrecy which cannot now be penetrated." - Derek Wilson, discussing how, in only 5 years (1810-1815), Nathan Rothschild became the main banker for the British government and the Bank of England (If only Derek knew what the "The Forum SA" would be penetrating....lol"

"I am a tremendous success… leaping from bed to bed like a mountain goat. . . .I was always convinced my father had won his spurs riding my grandmother's chambermaids." - Philippe Rothschild

"Working through the Wall Street firms of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., and J. P. Morgan Co., the Rothschilds financed John D. Rockefeller so that he could create the Standard Oil empire. They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman [railroads] and Andrew Carnegie [steel]. - William T. Still

Readers, please don't forget that the STD Oil Co. of Rockerfeller sold $20 million dollars of oil to Hitler to assist in Bombing London...the same place where all his "loyal clients" banked...WTF? No one is safe!!!

..apples don't fall far from their tree....only catch is...no matter which bank you move your funds too...no buying or selling without the mark! here is wisdom what what ....Rev.

It's not about being positive, hopefull and having a resilient nature...as those are endless events...what we have here is a concerning finite event that has to come to an end and bring with it all those who faithfully accepted their bank account number and goodies that are on thier way...chips.

What must be must be....

Quite correct - 666 is coming -- speaking of the decaying West and the Rising East (Dragon Land) When the first beast looks to the second beast and gives praise to it, The Dragon shall rise... Rev 13v 11: "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,...16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark ...."

Now why would Absa's owners(Rothschilds) be recieving the Dragon Awards from the City of London?
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corpo...gon+Awards.htm

What an exciting time before us....

[Frankincense]

@Wynn "Managers who earn fat bonusses being held personally responsible if their decisions result in dragging a bank down, same as if I drag my business down the creditors come to me."

I don't think we agree in understanding of modern banking... bonuses for this year are still an obsene amount, despite banks writing off billions of dollars and some going bust. Merrill Lynch will pay $6.7 billion in bonuses despite a 70% slide in its stockprice and five straight quarters of losses. That's an average $110,000 for each of its 60,900 people! CEO John Thain received a $15 million bonus when he was hired in December, and now Merrills has been swallowed by Bank of America.... please note they may not be held ACCOUNTABLE. Like I keep explaining, they are rolling out a global consolidation for humanities enslavement through transactional banking and numbers...their numbers...the number of...wisdom...Huge bonuses are a right instead of a privilege. Until mistakes are properly punished(not in t6h6i6s time), nothing will change. Many people claim one reason why bankers should be paid so much, is because of the risk of losing their jobs the very next day. Well, let me put it this way: If one has sold one's soul to the devil to do his work, instead of good things you speak of, like volunteering to be held accountable, then one deserves the earth in retrun from Satan. get it?

"Goldman Sachs ready to hand out £7bn salary and bonus package". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-bail-out.html


Wynn, I dont think you have realised that Banks do not operate within your ideas of "sound business principles" anymore....they decide what the principle will be...as they are now consolidating and becoming invincible as the Global Financial New World Order Consolidates....as was written...

moving along...

[Dave A]

This one is kinda offtopic, but I can't resist mentioning it. When I read:

"I am a tremendous success… leaping from bed to bed like a mountain goat. . . .I was always convinced my father had won his spurs riding my grandmother's chambermaids." - Philippe Rothschild

The first thing that popped into my head was AIDS showers

This, however, is very disturbing news

by the way - do u know that Barclays of england is majority shareholder of ABSA & Nathan Rothschild owns 56 % of Barclays?

And Maria Ramos is going to work for ABSA, and she and Trevor Manuel are known to share a room from time to time, and Trevor is SA's minister of finance...

The plot thickens

[Dave A]

Something I should have asked earlier -

msmoorad, who is the writer of the newsletter?

[msmoorad]

Something I should have asked earlier -

msmoorad, who is the writer of the newsletter?

i got it from a site called boerevryheid.LOL
yup its true.
i did not even know it exists but a googls search with certain keywords produced this result(one of them_

[Frankincense]

That was light on the matter! Thank You for that MSMoorad.

"Mandela asked Oppenheimer's permission before appointing Tito Mboweni"

We have in no uncertain terms Linked the Illuminati to SARB which was my intention by creating this Thread. It is done, and we ought to have little to disagree upon, but still there will be those....

So.... knowing the future of our Banking Systems Locally & Globally, am actually going to be ok to see many humans totally controlled by transactional accesses due to their ignorance and poor attitudes towards sentiments alluring to the fact that we are becoming prey to conspiracy blueprints being maintained for over 60 years.

Lock Down initiated

[sgafc]

great article..I have researched..this network too. It takes some mental gymnastic to grasp,but I always suspected a strong south african link.

[Dave A]

Thanks msmoorad. I was having a hard time placing the mindset. The reptiles I could take as poetic licence, the Illuminati trace could come from pretty much anywhere. But putting Oppenheimer with neo-nazi connections! It takes many hours staring at the campfire to figure that one out.

It's amazing how things have moved on. At the end of the day, that story is pretty harsh on what were volk heroes in their day.

[msmoorad]

hello all

in all my 35 years on earth i have learnt that things are not always what they appear to be.
actually, they are hardly ever what they appear to be.
those that are portrayed as good by the media are "the baddies" and those that are portrayed as bad are actually the good guys.
this is most true in the context of international affairs like war,politics, business & finance.
for everything the media "informs" us about , theres 10 things they conveniently forget to mention.
so if we had to form an opinion of whats happening based on what we "learn" from them, we would have a skewed/biased view.
anyway check this out by David Icke:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...rothschild.htm

this is the part that caught my eye:

And the Rothschild's were not satisfied with causing the unimaginable suffering of Jewish people under the Nazis, they also stole their wealth when the war was over, just as they stole the Russian wealth during the revolution they had financed.

In early 1998, during a speaking tour of South Africa, I had a personal meeting with P.W. Botha, the apartheid President of South Africa during the 1980s. The invitation came out of the blue when I was speaking a few miles from his home. We spoke for an hour and a half about the manipulation of South Africa and it was not long before names like Henry Kissinger, Lord Carrington, and the Rothschild's came up.

"I had some strange dealings with the English Rothschild's in Cape Town when I was president", he said, and he went on to tell me a story that sums up the Rothschild's so perfectly. He said they had asked for a meeting with him and his foreign minister, the Illuminati operative, Pik Botha (no relation). At that meeting, he said, the Rothschild's told him there was massive wealth in Swiss bank accounts which once belonged to German Jews and it was available for investment in South Africa if they could agree an interest rate. This is the very wealth, stolen from German Jews who suffered under the Nazis, which has come to light amid great scandal in recent years. The Rothschild's have been making a fortune from it since the war!! Botha told me he refused to accept the money, but Pik Botha left the meeting with the Rothschild's and he could not be sure that they did not come to some arrangement.

Breathtaking? Of course it is, but the world is not how we think it is.

heres another website:
http://www.namebase.org/diamond.html


this is just the beginning of the article:
Nelson Mandela is the president of South Africa, an event of monumental significance in world history. This great personal triumph is for him a vindication of his struggle. But now that the South African elections are long past, the record must be set straight about what really happened and why. The press has concealed as much as it reported; ideologues of all stripes have rushed around to rationalize their hypocrisies, and American politicians have been spreading around largesse as if the money were their own. That the results were so perfect, historically so symmetrical, is rather remarkable.
But, those with power, or who are connected to it, do not want the facts about the funding of the election to be known because it would reveal a pattern of deception and control, both to influence the outcome and to moderate the African National Congress. And those on the radical left don't want it known that the ANC has compromised itself by joining the list of organizations taking money from the United States, because they think it will hurt the cause of revolution. Everyone involved, across the ideological spectrum, has therefore joined in a kind of game to cloud the minds of outside observers.

Most hypocritical perhaps was the attempt to make a devil out of Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi by characterizing him as the tool of the oppressors and an obstructionist in the transition to democracy. His anomalous situation in post-apartheid South Africa led to suggestions that he was an enemy of democracy, and the cause of dissension that led to violence in an attempt to disrupt the electoral process that black South Africans struggled for decades to achieve. Chairman of the Inkatha Freedom Party and chief minister of KwaZulu, this prince and descendant of Shaka Zulu was then cast in the role of villain and reactionary. But it was not always so.

i have more stuff for you, if you behave.
see you later.

[Dave A]

And the Rothschild's were not satisfied with causing the unimaginable suffering of Jewish people under the Nazis, they also stole their wealth when the war was over,

OK. I'll bite. What's the story behind that notion?