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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
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    Responding to questions at a Cape Town Press Club breakfast he suggested a mechanism such as a tender board needed to be found to address this issue.

    "That will go a long way to delivering a telling blow against corruption, at least in government."

    Zuma said corruption was "all over" and causing anxiety in South Africa.
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    And who is to select the "Tender Board" members, more corrupt politicians, perhaps?
    The one day Zuma and his government is talking about fighting corruption, but the very next day they continue to take part in corruption and help themselves to privileges and money that belong to the people of this country.

    In Potch the ANC councillors got rid of the reported corrupt mayor, only to be rewarded by a disciplinary and eventual expulsion by the ANC! Every time an ANC cadre is exposed for corruption, he/she is protected by the party who will refuse to give information and will hide evidence al la Nscandla. Is this how you fight corruption Jacob Zuma?!!!
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    You know, that report was on a speech made in November 2008.
    How much progress has actually been made towards realising this?

    The arms deal commission of enquiry was announced in October 2011 - they may just start with their work on 5th August 2013 - perhaps.

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    And now a case where allegations of improper conduct were promptly pursued - SARS COMMISSIONER OUPA MAGASHULA RESIGNS.

    Not a comment on the outcome, but on the process - that's more like it!

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    This worries me. If the same process had to be applied to others in government EG Mayor in Potch. The premier in Limpopo etc. Why are the finance guys held to a higher standard.
    If this is the standard Zuma should not be President. Schaik was found by a court to have a generally corrupt relationship with him.

    Anyway lets hope the full story emerges.
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    There's a few thing that keep niggling at my brain, why does the arms deal commission need 4-years to organise/assemble? could it be that some key witnesses need to be "influenced" before they give testimony?

    Don't forget JZ is connected to Mugbean and probably shares the same opinions on "whistleblowers". Don't forget how Morgan's car was mysteriously run off the road, killing his wife, and how quickly thereafter, Morgan gave up the fight...

    I don't for a second believe that JZ or the ANC, has any intention of combating corruption. Sure, they will put up smoke screens to make us think they are doing something, and a few minnows will be brought down, but the real problems, will never be stopped or even slowed, that is until the country is bankrupted, and then they will blame... Do I have to say it?... Apartheid.
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    In a statement on Saturday, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu commended Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan for the "decisive action" he took in probing the allegations of impropriety and misconduct when they were initially levelled against Magashula.

    "We respect [Magashula's] decision to relinquish his post in the face of controversy and place ... the reputation and integrity of Sars [South African Revenue Service] and government broadly ahead of his own deployment interests," Mthembu said.link to M&G
    Maybe reading to much into this but the red bit tells me this is not going to be the norm with ANC Cadres
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    You see the "cookie jar" still has lots of lovely lolly in it just waiting to be plundered. Jokes aside until the rank and file of the ANC do something about it, it will not stop. I actually believe that anyone who votes for the ANC has rocks for brains.

    I commend Pravin Gordhan for his action. Let us now wait and see how long he stays there.

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    I wonder where Magashula will be redeployed?
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    I wonder if Gordhan's days are numbered.
    Sadly, even though Gordhan may have acted impeccably in dealing with the Magashula scandal, he himself cannot confront the predators when his Cabinet colleagues are involved. He has recoiled from pronouncing on the manipulation of the state for the renovation of President Jacob Zuma’s private home at Nkandla, even though there is clear flouting of procedures and abuse of public funds. He has instead repeatedly deferred the matter until the release of Public Protector Thuli Madonsela’s investigation report. Link to Daily Maverick article
    He has set a bit of precedent that will worry the corrupt politicians, plus this was handled to cleanly to leave room for manipulation.
    Will he be gone in the next cabinet reshuffle?
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    Corruption? whats that?

    I thought it was a new word for hidden taxes?
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