Stove isolator positioning.

[Derlyn]

@GCE Thank you as always for your prompt input.

See https://thegasman.co.za/pages/2024-n...b%20or%20stove. for the new socket outlet specs.

I have recently had 2 cases where the stove isolators were in the DB with a notice at the stove which read " stove isolator in DB ".
The DB's in both cases were less than 3 meters from the stove. I gave them a pass. I'm sure that anyone seeing the designer tiling around the stove area would have done the same.

Also interesting is that they say the isolator must be at least 200mm to the left or right of the appliance, so basically it's not allowed to be anywhere between the hob and extractor fan irrespective of the distance from the hob.


Granted, this is text from the The Gas Man, however I'm sure they are on top of the latest regulations.

[GCE]

Also interesting is that they say the isolator must be at least 200mm to the left or right of the appliance, so basically it's not allowed to be anywhere between the hob and extractor fan irrespective of the distance from the hob.


Granted, this is text from the The Gas Man, however I'm sure they are on top of the latest regulations.

Had the discussion with gas guys on a platform with attorneys

The picture shows to the side - the actual written regulations says " Electrical equipment, such as light switches and plugs, shall be at least 200 mm away from any burner and potential point of gas release"
The written reg does not say left or right just 200mm from burner which again is not 200mm from each of hob - The pic is for illustration and the written reg needs to be read and understood - If they wanted it left or right then surely they would have side that
That was ed 6 - need to look at ed7

[Tradie]

Simple, is it non compliant, yes, steps must be taken to make it compliant, both electrical and gas. It is the customers responsibility to make sure it is safe. Issue a danger notice and a quote to make it complaint (CYA).

[GCE]

Simple, is it non compliant, yes, steps must be taken to make it compliant, both electrical and gas. It is the customers responsibility to make sure it is safe. Issue a danger notice and a quote to make it complaint (CYA).

Agree and disagree

In electrical it is based on the date of installation as to which regulation is applicable - In Gas guys eyes it will mean everything changing to present regulations .Gas guys also struggle to understand that what is written is the reg the pic is for illustration not the actual reg

If we read the regulation as written in there code (pasted below)

" electrical equipment shall be at least 200mm horizontally from the edge of the closest burner or at least 1,5m measured from the floor.If a heat deflector is installed above the burner ,such as a cooker hood, the electrical point can be installed above or behind the heat deflector"

If you read that as it is written then it means I can install electrical equipment anywhere as long as it is 1,5m above floor level - So they need to accept the isolator that is above the burner as long as it is 1,5m above floor level

So the change has actually brought it back to where it should be - I will be surprised if the gas guys actually read it like that

There picture makes it look like 15m from the floor - A kitchen counter is around 1 to 1,2m from floor depending and top cupboards at around 1,7m to 1,9m depending