How to complete a COC/test report

[Derlyn]

I forgot to add the gate wires is a bit dodgy, I am thinking like you, maybe just put a plug top on the gate power and move on

Nope, that's not how I think. That's a no-no. I think SANS 10142.
The regulations say that plugged in leads to fixed appliances ( the gate motor is a fixed appliance) should not be longer than 3 meters so if the gate motor is further than 3 meters away from the socket outlet, I would definately not be thinking of just fitting a plugtop to it's supply. That's a false assumption.

As far as the lights are concerned, they are called luminaires in the code. Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to 6.16.1.3, a luminaire is only regarded as a fixed appliance when either a fan or heater is incorporated in the unit. The regs regarding fixed appliances therefore do not apply to luminaires that do not incorporate either a fan or heater.l

[Dave A]

As far as the lights are concerned, they are called luminaires in the code. Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to 6.16.1.3, a luminaire is only regarded as a fixed appliance when either a fan or heater is incorporated in the unit.

I have always seen luminaires as a particular category of fixed appliance. But this wording combination of the parts I have bolded below presents something of a contradiction.

6.16.1.2 The power supply to every fixed appliance, except luminaires, shall be supplied through
a) a disconnecting device that disconnects both live conductors in a single-phase supply and all phase conductors in a multiphase supply, or
b) a socket-outlet that is directly accessible at all times that any person is exposed to such appliance while the supply is on. In the case of a remotely installed appliance, the position of the disconnecting device shall be indicated by means of a notice in close proximity to or on the appliance.

6.16.1.3 Where a fan or heater is included in a luminaire, the luminaire is regarded as a fixed appliance. If the luminaire circuit is protected by an earth leakage protection device that has a rated earth leakage tripping current (rated residual current) IΔn not exceeding 30 mA, a disconnector is not required (see 6.9.3.1).

[Isetech]

I didnt get back to this site today, ended up north of the river river. I have another challenge, where to install my 3 lithium batteries, in a complex.

[Isetech]

Does anyone know how the 5 amp plug, 3 m cable fixed appliances and luminaries came about ?

Does it even apply to domestic installations, it would be a good idea to do a little research and find out more about how it was introduced into the SANS book.

How many 5 amp plugs with 3 m cords do you see in domestic installations, other than were some of us use it for extractor fans in bathrooms?

What I see it the industry on social media platforms, etc, are many people with little experience and what looks like they past the exams by just using the exam paper to get the certificate.

I might be wrong, but its what it looks like.

[Leonsparky]

Comments or parts no covered by the COC, another interesting part.
All the security lights are plugged into a socket outlet and wired with 1.5 mm cabtyre in conduits.
Would these security lights be excluded ? Let us know your thoughts because this ha caused a few disagreements in the past. The way I see it, as soon as you secure or bury any equipment it becomes a fixture.
If you sell the house for example, the lights cannot be removed, so now they must be included in the COC ?

You cannot just exclude something because you feel like it. You also cannot supply a light fitting from a socket that is not a SANS 164-4 socket and within 3m of the socket. This is still part of the CoC and part of a circuit. Your point of consumption is your luminaires terminal.

[Leonsparky]

You cannot just exclude something because you feel like it. You also cannot supply a light fitting from a socket that is not a SANS 164-4 socket and within 3m of the socket. This is still part of the CoC and part of a circuit. Your point of consumption is your luminaires terminal.

sorry, meant 164-2

[Isetech]

Tomorrow we will repair as we go and move to the next DB. You should have a good idea of what is required on the test report document.

Now it is just do the same thing for all the other DB's.

Once the elctrical installation is tested, I will move over to the solar installation and run through the tests.

IF you want more details on certain parts, I am sure one of the regulars on this forum will assist or add specific regs from the book.

This is not a pissing contest, it is to try help anyone who either doesn't understand sections or parts of the test report.

If you have any tips, lets hear them.

[Isetech]

The big question is which solar COC document should I use, there are a number of them doing the rounds at the moment.

[Die sparky]

578 KA should it not be 0.578 KA?

[Derlyn]

Back to the lights.

The definition of a fixed appliance describes a luminaire to the tee, so I was wrong. Luminaires are fixed appliances, however; they are exempted by 6.16.1.2 from having to have an isolator on their supply unless a fan or heater is incorporated in the unit. They must have an isolator unless their supply is on earth leakage.

This regulation, I believe, is unique to luminaires.

The example that Isetech quoted of floodlights plugged in, is not compliant because the lead exceeds 3 meters. That supply needs to be connected directly to the lights circuit and the supply to the floodlights will be included in the coc. The floodlight is excluded as is the case with all other fixed appliances.

Had the lead length not exceeded 3 meters and they were plugged into a socket outlet, then both the lead and the luminaire would have been excluded from the coc as they would be beyond the point of consumption.

Dave, you are correct as far as luminaires being fixed appliances is concerned.