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    Double insulated solar wires in wireways

    Another hot topic, which requires urgent attention. I am not going to go into detail now, just point out the confusion.

    Do you just run the wires on the surface?

    Do you run the red and black in the same conduit with the earth wire?

    Do you have to install steel conduit.

    IF you in the group who says you cannot install both the red and black wire in the same PVC conduit, then I ask this question do you install additional trunking to separate the red and black when it gets to the inverter trunking?

    Lets spit it out and at least get a basic guideline for people to use.

    While we are about it, try clear up the lithium propaganda
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    There are regulations out on wiring of PV strings - SANS 60364-7-712

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    Deleted, not the correct document.

    The correct document is 70 pages
    Last edited by Isetech; 20-Mar-24 at 04:34 PM.
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    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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    Basically the IEC code.

    IEC 60364-7-712:2017
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    Reference to SANS 60364-7-712:2018Edition 2

    712.542.101 Functional earthing

    For mechanical protection, the minimum cross-sectional area for a functional earthing
    conductor is 4 mm2 copper or equivalent.
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    Refence to: SANS 60364-7-712:2018Edition 2


    I see a lot of comments about sizing of conductors, take note in red.

    Take note of the conductor sizes in red.




    712.534.4.10 Connecting conductors of SPDs


    Add the following:


    • When SPDs are installed on both AC and DC sides of the invertor in separate
    switchboards, it is recommended to minimize the distance between those switchboards.

    • For DC SPD connections to the main earthing terminal the conductors shall have a
    minimum cross section of 6 mm2 copper or equivalent for Class II tested SPDs and
    16 mm2 copper or equivalent for Class I tested SPDs.
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    Take note:

    712.514.107 Documentation


    Documentation shall be provided in accordance with IEC 62446-1.
    A set of operational instructions for the insulation fault alarm referred to in 712.531.3.101.3
    shall be provided to the PV installation owner, which explains the need for immediate action
    to investigate and to correct the fault.
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    This is interesting, if you use red and black wires for AC and DC, then the DC cable should have additional labels, this could be why you see some people fit labels to the conduit.

    712.514.2 Wiring systems


    Add the following:
    The identification of AC and DC circuits shall be such that they are clearly distinguishable
    from each other (e.g. by labels or different coloured cables).
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    Page 36 clears up the confusion with regards to solar wires in PVC/metallic wireways.

    If you decide to install single insulated cable in PVC conduit, it must be installed in a separate conduit, however

    IF you install double insulated PV specific cable, it should be installed inside the same PVC or metallic conduit.

    In fact as you read the document, you will see that every precaution should be taken not to separate the conductors to prevent other issues.

    The positive and negative should be installed as close as practical at all times, even between the panels, jumping for the top to the bottom string with only one conductors is not advisable.

    Lets get the fact correct.
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