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    Quote Originally Posted by ACElectric View Post
    Contrary to some narratives created by some articles and statements, YOU MOST CERTAINLY CAN EXCLUDE PARTS OF THE INSTALLATION ON THE COC, AND THERE IS A DEDICATED SPACE PROVIDED FOR THAT PURPOSE ON THE COC UNDER SECTION 3. It would not "render the coc invalid" or be "against the law"

    Here is an example from sans 10142 of the format of the coc approved by the chief inspector and enacted by law: As you can see there is a clear section to comment on parts you want to EXCLUDE.

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    If the house is being sold you are doing a COC to state that the entire installation is safe as per fundamentals - You cannot then start excluding parts of the installation , it will come back to bite.

    If you do an alterations you can cover just that alteration and exclude the balance of the installation that you have not worked on

    On the sale of a property you would be contracted to check the entire installation

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    Provided the customer can supply a valid COC/test report for the balance of the installation.

    Your work will require a supplementary COC/test report.

    As pointed out to me during an investigation, as a qualified skilled person with experience in the industry, you should know better than to turn a blind eye to non compliant parts of the installation.

    At some point you would have to open an existing DB to connect your supply cable, or connect plugs and lights to the existing installation.

    Fortunately for us the electrical industry is winning the race to the bottom of all industries, chances are you will get away with just about anything.



    Quote Originally Posted by GCE View Post
    If you do an alterations you can cover just that alteration and exclude the balance of the installation that you have not worked on
    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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    I think this thread is not about turning a blind eye to sections of an installation that are non compliant, it's more about excluding sections that for some or other reason, are either extremely difficult or sometimes virtually impossible to access in order to inspect.

    I take it that that is what the exclusion section on the test report is for.

    Ther are occasions that crop up where doing things 100% by the book are virtually impossible. That's where being reasonable comes into play.

    At the end of the day, you are signing a declaration that the installation is REASONABLY safe.

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    Its a fine line, some might say they exclude the solar or backup system, because they are not qualified to test the installation.

    I have heard all the excuses:

    The room was locked,
    There was a large cupboard in front of the socket or switch,
    The appliance or light was out of arms reach,
    The labels are being printed,
    There were dogs in that area.
    My inspecting must have missed that par tof the building,
    and many many more
    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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