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    Ahhhh you are right... Fixed appliance is then any appliance actually that is fixed to the brick and mortar of the installation... Does not matter if plugged in or not.

    Then this thing of Isetech of being if it is fixed to the installation it must then comply.

    Glad this conversation happened thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    If you use cabtyre, don't forget to change the insulation colours on the ends. Brown to red and blue to black using tape or heat shrink and use bootlace ferrules to protect the conductor ends.

    Neglecting to do the above will make it non compliant.
    To date I have never seen anyone ever fit red tape or red sleeve to a brown wire or black to a blue wire.

    What I do see a lot is brown used for live - blue for neutral and green/yellow for the return/live for lights connected to PEC's.

    The only time I ever seen red tape used to identify a wire, red taped on the bare wire of FTE and surfix used for return/lives in lighting

    Bootlace ferrules, the only place they are used is for control wires in panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isetech View Post
    To date I have never seen anyone ever fit red tape or red sleeve to a brown wire or black to a blue wire.

    What I do see a lot is brown used for live - blue for neutral and green/yellow for the return/live for lights connected to PEC's.

    The only time I ever seen red tape used to identify a wire, red taped on the bare wire of FTE and surfix used for return/lives in lighting

    Bootlace ferrules, the only place they are used is for control wires in panels.
    Then it will not comply and you cannot sign it off


    6.1.11 Where flexible cords are used as part of the electrical installation, the
    selection, installation and colour identification (see 6.3.3) shall be done in
    accordance with this part of SANS 10142.
    Flexible cords with cross sectional
    area less than 1 mm2 shall not be permitted.
    6.1.12 Where flexible cords are used, the strands of the conductors shall be
    mechanically protected with ferrules
    to prevent the strands from being cut off
    in terminations

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCE View Post
    Then it will not comply and you cannot sign it off


    6.1.11 Where flexible cords are used as part of the electrical installation, the
    selection, installation and colour identification (see 6.3.3) shall be done in
    accordance with this part of SANS 10142.
    Flexible cords with cross sectional
    area less than 1 mm2 shall not be permitted.
    6.1.12 Where flexible cords are used, the strands of the conductors shall be
    mechanically protected with ferrules
    to prevent the strands from being cut off
    in terminations
    I agree 100 %, but the reality is that nobody seems to comply. One of the audits we have been busy with, was signed over by a member of an associassion (who you would think, would know better) after reporting the member we still found silly issues like this on site

    At least if it is dodgy cardboard electricians and DIY jobs, they might not know any better, but when qualified IE's and MIE's registered with the DOL and an associassion are signing off jobs like this, it becomes a big problem. It indicates that the responsible person has sent unskilled staff to site or not been to site and carried out a thorough test report.

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    Every site I have been to where I am not the spark there the owner or the IE is never ever there as generally they the owner and it shows with the amount of F ups that come later on...

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