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    Quote Originally Posted by GCE View Post
    It is illegal according to the OHSA to sign the COC unless " No person other than a registered person may issue a certificate of compliance." is complied to.
    To justify the transgression due to cost would never stand in a court of law.

    Is a doctor going to let his nurse operate and remove your kidney because it will work out cheaper for you ? Would you even take that risk as the patient.

    Why do Electrical contractors always try to undermine themselves and put there businesses at risk to save the client money.

    Do the job correctly and according to the laws of the country and charge a fair price .
    The registered wireman goes to site but highly unlikely will do the tests himself.
    The problem in sa is if you follow the law you might not get work as you too expensive .What are the benefits of paying bargaining council and vat compared to a single licensed wireman in a bakkie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepool View Post
    The registered wireman goes to site but highly unlikely will do the tests himself.
    The problem in sa is if you follow the law you might not get work as you too expensive .What are the benefits of paying bargaining council and vat compared to a single licensed wireman in a bakkie?
    Then you are no different to the illegal contractor that operates without being licensed and has the audacity to call himself legitimate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepool View Post
    The registered wireman goes to site but highly unlikely will do the tests himself.
    I don't understand this statement. If the registered wireman is at the site, why wouldn't they do the tests themselves?

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    They would not do it as they have someone under them and they just say go do the Recc at each point and do the tests and let me know... I'll be in the bakkie or having a coffee with the client...

    That is part of the experience I have had in the past.

    Also a wireman generally owns a company and would have staff... he would let the staff do the work. You don't see the owner of discovery doing the day to day work. He overseas it all. A bit of a differnet situation but still the point of the owner does not always do everything.

    I do believe that the registered person can give a written statement giving person X signing powers, how ever I have not looked into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    I don't understand this statement. If the registered wireman is at the site, why wouldn't they do the tests themselves?
    Because in most cases we have skilled and semi skilled who are working under our supervision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylboy View Post
    They would not do it as they have someone under them and they just say go do the Recc at each point and do the tests and let me know... I'll be in the bakkie or having a coffee with the client...

    That is part of the experience I have had in the past.

    Also a wireman generally owns a company and would have staff... he would let the staff do the work. You don't see the owner of discovery doing the day to day work. He overseas it all. A bit of a differnet situation but still the point of the owner does not always do everything.

    I do believe that the registered person can give a written statement giving person X signing powers, how ever I have not looked into it.

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    Only a Registered Person, employed by/on behalf of a registered electrical contractor may issue a CoC after he/she has inspected and tested the electrical installation and found it to be reasonably safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylboy View Post
    They would not do it as they have someone under them and they just say go do the Recc at each point and do the tests and let me know... I'll be in the bakkie or having a coffee with the client...

    That is part of the experience I have had in the past.

    Also a wireman generally owns a company and would have staff... he would let the staff do the work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isetech View Post
    Because in most cases we have skilled and semi skilled who are working under our supervision.
    I was thinking more along the lines where the "boss" sends the IE out to site do the testing, but what you say explains a lot of the symptoms I see in the industry
    I have employed endless shyte IE's over the years who apparently don't know what they are doing. I guess the problem was they were too busy having coffee or naps while their subordinates were doing the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    I was thinking more along the lines where the "boss" sends the IE out to site do the testing, but what you say explains a lot of the symptoms I see in the industry
    I have employed endless shyte IE's over the years who apparently don't know what they are doing. I guess the problem was they were too busy having coffee or naps while their subordinates were doing the work.
    Bosses also need to get some sleep and have a cuppa on occasionally, we work 18-20 hours a day . Not everyone starts work at 8 am and home by 4 pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCE View Post
    Then you are no different to the illegal contractor that operates without being licensed and has the audacity to call himself legitimate
    BY the way it is not saying how we work,I am saying how it often works in the industry.Many people love short term fixes at the cheapest price.The guy that follows the law can loose his advantage by doing everything by the book.The red tape kills the smme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    I don't understand this statement. If the registered wireman is at the site, why wouldn't they do the tests themselves?
    Well our licensed wireman would go to site but it would not be the best use of his time when you trying to keep a large client base happy.

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