Covid-19 - UIF process for Electrical Contractors

**GCE** · 13-May-20, 10:55 AM

Thanks Dave
Still don't quite understand why each region is dealing separately - Understood that there was a person in Jhb selected to deal with UIF which would make sense instead of each region trying to deal as separate.
We submit monthly to UIF directly from the wage package and have confirmation back each time - So that should not be blocking me.

Would have thought that since the gazette extended the NBCEI agreement had been lodged that by now the MOA would have been signed and submitted and somebody from UIF allocated to deal with.
I also noticed that UIF have not made any payments since the 7th , or at least not shown so.
Let me try find my diplomatic hat , increase the nicotine intake and make some calls

**ians** · 13-May-20, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by GCE

Thanks Dave
Still don't quite understand why each region is dealing separately - Understood that there was a person in Jhb selected to deal with UIF which would make sense instead of each region trying to deal as separate.
We submit monthly to UIF directly from the wage package and have confirmation back each time - So that should not be blocking me.

Would have thought that since the gazette extended the NBCEI agreement had been lodged that by now the MOA would have been signed and submitted and somebody from UIF allocated to deal with.
I also noticed that UIF have not made any payments since the 7th , or at least not shown so.
Let me try find my diplomatic hat , increase the nicotine intake and make some calls

I find a rubber mallet a 300mmX300mm steel plate ... 30 mm thick ... works best for me ... replaced the nicotine with a joint ...cut out the brandy completely ... and still had to replace the rubber mallet because i bent handle somehow.

**Dave A** · 13-May-20, 01:06 PM

Any benefit payment made by UIF has no deductions and does not form part of the beneficiary's taxable income.

**ians** · 13-May-20, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dave A

Any benefit payment made by UIF has no deductions and does not form part of the beneficiary's taxable income.

I wonder why a company would reduce the amount paid to an employee compared by as much as R980 compared to what was paid to them from the TERS ...any idea?

I know in my case ...i paid over R500 less because i gave one of my employees R500 advance to help get through until the UIF paid out... he was desperate.

**ians** · 29-Jun-20, 11:02 AM

Looks like it is gona be a quiet month again ... can we just keep claiming for UIF or when will it become short time ... the UIF is covering the wages?

I am actually enjoying all this time off ... watching series all night ... sleeping in till 8 am everyday ... then off to the beach for oreo milkshakes

waist is gone from a 36 to a 40 again

Kids are back to school in 2 weeks time ... we gona have to start the 5 am routine again ... not looking forward to that.

**GCE** · 15-Jul-20, 12:25 PM

Talking to the guys this morning it appears that UIF are now actively engaging with NBCEI and assisting with getting May claims registered and paid out.Also assisting in sorting out people that were missed.
I had one guy that they did not pay out with the rest of my guys, but it has now been corrected and paid yesterday
It at least looks positive , lets hope it stays that way

**Dave A** · 15-Jul-20, 01:26 PM

I'm a happy camper on that front too right now.

Got the request for company registration number with CIPC on Monday morning.
Gave it to NBCEI straight away.
On Tuesday morning the May claim money was in the bank :thumup:

**Justloadit** · 14-May-20, 12:16 PM

There is going to be an issue with the reduced amount paid. As an employer, you have to send proof, copy of bank payment to the UIF office to show that there has been a payment made.

Originally Posted by Covid-19 UIF

Dear Employer Please find detailed pay sheet indicating amount to be paid to each employee and word document Take note to print sign and forward word document together with Pay sheet and proof of payment to mail box as stated on the word document. Regards Unemployment Insurance Commissioner.

**GCE** · 17-May-20, 07:43 AM

Hi

I have made the calls and sent the mails in regards to NBCEI and UIF claims with absolute silence as the result .

This morning I picked up a new gazette that is directly related and NBCEI are going to need systems in place quickly.

The way I read it, it appears that all Electrical contractors will need to claim through council and will not be allowed to claim themselves.
I see the gazette was issued 15 May , signed 30 April and is retrospective to 27 March.

I assume that this will change things for a number of employer organizations that fall under Bargaining councils.

**Dave A** · 19-May-20, 10:36 AM

I see the ECA has posted an article about how the NBCEI is trying to escalate the problem of non-payment of TERS claims.

Reading the letter, it is clear it was drafted without knowledge of the regulation change of 15th May referred to by Graham above. That regulation change places the Bargaining Councils an an even more invidious position than the letter mentions.

Here's hoping there is a constructive response from the Department of Labour!