UIF - need to file data with labour AND SARS?

[HR Solutions]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but SARS and UIF are two different things all together...you don't deduct UIF and pay to SARS, you deduct UIF and pay to UIF.

You pay them both over to SARS on a EMP201 as well as SDL and ETI

[Basment Dweller]

You pay them both over to SARS on a EMP201 as well as SDL and ETI

I've just been making deposits into the UIF account and faxing the U19 form...is that enough or am I missing something here?

[CLIVE-TRIANGLE]

I've just been making deposits into the UIF account and faxing the U19 form...is that enough or am I missing something here?

You must fax a UI17 form.

If you are registered as employer with SARS, you need to pay the UIF to SARS, not DOL.

[CLIVE-TRIANGLE]

Clive, I hope you don't mind me jumping in here with a related question:

Scenario: a sole proprietor/business owner employs his first employee. The employee will be earning below the threshold.

Am I correct in saying that the SP doesn't need to register with SARS for a PAYE number?

An employer only needs to register with SARS if one or more of the employees earns more than the PAYE threshold.

The SP is obviously paying his own taxes on all the net earnings, but does he consider himself an employee as well for registration purposes?

He plans to register himself as an Employer with DOL (for a UIF number) as well as Workmens Comp. When filing these applications, does he count himself as an employee and include his earnings in the figures for these applications? Or just his one new employee?

That registration is obligatory. For WCC, to my knowledge, the SP excludes himself, unlike a company director and cc member, but I suggest get better opinion than mine

Lastly, if he is then only registering for UIF (and not PAYE), does he register with SARS too via ufiling (as opposed to completing a EMP101e and adding UIF to his efiling profile)?

Thank you in advance for your help with this!

No need to register as an employer with SARS.

[Dave A]

For WCC, to my knowledge, the SP excludes himself, unlike a company director and cc member

Just to confirm that is correct. One of the weaknesses of trading as a sole proprietor is the lack of Workmen's Compensation cover for the business owner.

(I also fear for domestic workers on this front).

[Basment Dweller]

You must fax a UI17 form.

If you are registered as employer with SARS, you need to pay the UIF to SARS, not DOL.

I'm not registered as an employer with SARS, it's just me paying my maid.