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    Quote Originally Posted by SSS100 View Post
    Read all the discriminating and degrading posts made by all the white people about transformation and black people and BBBEE which is needed to adddress the cruel injustice of the past in this country before you tell me of making racism remarks

    Start from beginning of the posts then you shall see MR Clever
    Living in the past is not going to ensure a bright future for your or my children. Taking hands and working together to build a country where ALL South Africans can benefit is what we need. We need a shared patriosim and a vision of a country where everyone is equal and treated fairly.
    I sadly do acknowlege that there are racists amongst us, but I also realise that there are black and white racists, that is why I immediately get my back up when race is mentioned (all races). Every time that we fall into that negative trap of pointing fingers, we destroy the little bit of goodwill that still bind us together.
    Most white people voted for change because we saw that apartheid was wrong. Not all of us benefitted from apartheid as is generally believed. I was orphaned at 10 and the boarding school was my home until I left school. Yes, I was privileged to attend a good school, but I could not afford to go to university. I studied part time and worked hard to make a living. I was awarded an MBA at age 50 and I am still studying. I regard myself as fairly succesful, so why should I be ashamed of who I am?
    I can understand that people are hurt because of injustices and many things that have gone wrong. Some show their anger in violent demonstrations such as the burning of trucks on the N3 this weekend. There are however, those who rise above their circumstances to become leaders and pillars of hope in their communities and in their country. Let us be builders rather than breakers.
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    "The bill will lead to even more resources being made available to relatively less competent entrepreneurs -- black, coloured, Indian and white -- those entrepreneurs who would not make the grade without government assistance."

    This meant fewer consumer goods would be available to all South Africans. The cost of the project would fall on ordinary consumers, who would have to pay more for basic goods.

    Le Roux said it was important to remember it was not just "less competent" black entrepreneurs who benefit from artificial investment, but also whites.

    "White entrepreneurs who would not have made it in the market, but who somehow managed to get a black, coloured or Indian BEE partner, are being kept in business at the expense of consumers," he said.
    Just to put everything in perspective; this is where the thread has started. Although there are many whites who resist change due to their fears or insecurities, I have to agree with Wynn's statement which also reflects my view of BBBEE. I see it as a licence for corruption and a free ticket for the politically connected.

    I fully support transformation and in our business we are training (black) youngsters with skills to enable them to negotiate a better wage and a better living. They are now able to apply elsewhere, should they not be happy with their pay or working conditions.There are those who are "too old to learn" or some other excuse, but at least they have the option to decide for themselves.

    We have started the business with a 51% black partner, but he was a gentleman and although a business school graduate, he decided that he was not the right person for the job. What is the use of "empowering" one man if he does not have the technical skills and aptitude to carry on with the business after the founders retire or leave? Is it not better to transfer the skills to more capable youngsters who are willing to learn and who have the the right attitude and hunger for the business? That is what I call empowererment and real freedom. The right to choose where you want to work and to be able to negotiate is real freedom. Not the kind of freedom that is sold by politicians. I have yet to meet any politician that can be trusted.
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    Yes, transformation should not be about few politically connected or "one-man" as a BBEEE partner, it is way more than that

    Mama Winnie did not suffer for " few" to benefit from the freedom but ALL "our people" as she always referred to the people

    Let us honour her and the sacrifices she made .. the good cause

    Rest In Peam Mama Winnie

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    Transformation

    What do we understand under transformation? I think 90% of South Africans have no clue what the word means and our government certainly have no clue on how to implement it.

    The recent debacle of forced racist quotas in sports and in particular in school sports has again opened a can of worms which is driving people into racist camps. This leads to emotional outbursts without thinking rationally, such as that Sija Kolisi, our springbok captain is a sell-out and has to be neclaced! Imagine.

    The government should not worry about the racial make-up of our national sides, but rather focus on giving as many children as possible the opportunity to play sport. Too many children are playing their sports in township streets or an open veld with not a blade of grass. The ANC has had 25 years to start building facilities where school children can play, train and practice their sport. Why have they done nothing for our children?! A skill in sport is not acquired at 18 or 20, after you have left school, but at junior level. It takes 10 years to become a master or expert at what you do. That is why Bafana Bafana is such a hopelessly dismal team. You cannot expect to kick a ball around on a barren, grassless field and then become a world class player.
    Look at our black sports stars. All of them went to decent schools with decent sports facilities. Yes the Makaya Ntini's, Kolisi's and others have been discovered in rural areas, but they were given an opportunity which they took and built on to become sports heroes. Had these same guys be left in the rural area and only entered their teams as quota players, they would not have done so well. On the contrary, there would always be the stigma of "quota player", which would also have a psychological impact making them feel inferior to their peers.

    Imagine what impact it may have on an unsecure youngster to be included in the school team as a quota player. I am so glad that this stupid announcement was scrapped for school children. Rather build facilities where everyone can have an equal opportunity to excell and be the best that they can be. That is true transformation!
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