Minimum force being used.....the more things change the more they stay the same...

[Dave A]

Now here's a new twist - Detained miners charged with murder.

[adrianh]

....and we were saying what about the that stupidity can't be taught...the police kills the people and the strikers get the blame.....now if that isn't teaching stupidity then I don't know what is....

[Dave A]

the police kills the people and the strikers get the blame.....

Even if you place some level of culpability on some of the strikers (or their leaders), could you call it murder?
At worst culpable homicide, I'd have thought. More likely something down the lines of incitement...

I'm looking forward to the explanation as to how the NPA cooked this one up. This is what they've said so far.

Or will they just drop the charge down the line?

Lots of wierd shyte happening in the NPA nowadays

[IMHO]

Looks like it is just a counter sue and an attempt to make the charges more serious, to deny bail. Seems like the police do not want them to get bail, as the media will then have a field day, questioning these people and find out how things really happened.

[tec0]

So what you are saying is that if you kill people during a strike it is not murder? FACT is that security, police and other workers did die at the hands of the strikers. Now if justice is not perused in this matter then what is the point in having laws?

[adrianh]

They just make it up as they go along. Remember, they also charged 2 stoned Soweto Mini racing drivers with Murder....the problem is that if you use serious crime "titles" such as murder to prosecute lesser offences it serves to devalue the "title" ... I do'nt know the right terminology... If you call every action a murder then when a real murder occurs it is seen as just another overrated prosecution.

[IMHO]

FACT is that security, police and other workers did die at the hands of the strikers.

Fact is that is not part of the murder case.

The case is about the 34 killed by police. The argument is, if they did not behave like that, the police would not have killed those people. The police would then not have gone after them, shot them in the back, shot them in hiding places and crushed them with their vehicles. Well, that is the stories going around...

[adrianh]

Ah,ok, I think it was Eve's fault because her bewitching Adam led him to eating the apple which of course stuffed it all up for everybody....I bet Eve was white...

[ChrisNG53]

Compatriots -- if you go to this link you will find a judgement that is very useful in understanding how a court will approach the issue at hand,
It is a judgement by a very good judge .. whatever our good friend Kevinb might think ... lol.

I have shortened it by taking out issues that are not directly in point.

Link === https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...-R8/edit?pli=1

[Dave A]

Chris, I think there's a permission problem with the URL you posted.