NWO has SA in its sights. (part 1)

[pmbguy]

@tec0 - I grant you that the implant thing is new. But for us to consider it a part of the NWO plan we have to believe the rest of the evidence too, which only points to how things have always been. So I am afraid that one new thing (Implant) is no evidence of a NWO.

We complain about how bad the word has got wara wara, but remember that things like the child mortality rate is the lowest it’s been in human history our life expectancy is higher than it’s ever been. Humans live more freely today than ever before. So actually we live in the good times compared to what our lives would have been like in our historical past. So I reject the notion that there are signs everywhere of a world getting worse indicating a NWO or apocalypse.

[HR Solutions]

In the end it comes down to what you think is true and what you believe to be true vs what someone else think and believe. Do I believe that these secret groups have some kind of magic or mystical ability? No I don't. Do they believe it? Well judging on the videos and books yes it seems they do. Is it important? Only if it involves the rest of us in some horrible way otherwise no.

Do I think there is some "x-file" conspiracy between little gray spacemen and authoritieses? No I don't otherwise we would have been medicated slaves already... Is there some credibility towards people trying to rule every aspect of your life? Sadly there is example implants that will replace money and every card you have. Is it a good thing? There is no history of implants and a completely digital money/ID system so it is a world first...

Do I want an implant? No I don't I don't know how it will effect my health or how safe it is nor how it's security.

So what is this NWO crap then? Well it is and always was about control. Will new technology and biotechnology allow for more control? Yes it will and yes it is by design. Why? Well there is always conflict always bad people wanting to hurt good people and as long as that is fact we will get tech that is designed to combat the problem. If this is not true why do we have guns and big boomsticks ID books and DNA databases?

Can we do anything about it? No... this is the world we live in...

Do you need to believe or accept that there is a NWO? that is your choice.
Does your choice matter? Nope it doesn't because what will happen will happen.

The end

tec I basically agree with everything how you have said it here (ie its up to you how you think) , except for the part of the guns etc .... we have guns because of people that disagree with other people and people that want to take from other people, therefore more guns to protect etc etc etc

[Trickzta]

Nice piece of psychology in the link, thank you Vieome. I never had time for these theories up until two years or so ago.

I think I take them too seriously, those that I feel are not theories anyway. Must work on that.

I had access to the SADF Training Manuals in the 70's, and read about brain washing procedures that are still in use today. It is of course more advanced today but the basics have not changed much at all.

When I saw on numerous occasions, ok on three occasions, that the media or an individual had posted condolences for victims a day or more before the tragic shooting occurred, I was immediately superstitious and this aroused my suspicion to a new level.

A news agency published a report of the dockside shooting a day before it happened. WTF???

Anyway that is why I try and dig deep, to get to the bottom of the problem.

If you look at footage of the second plane hitting the WTC Towers, and then seconds away from impact you watch it frame by frame, you will notice that the left wing of the plane goes behind a building that is far from the towers.

Also just before the plane melts into the building, its left wing goes behind the tower for a split second. The footage has been tampered with, and there is a name for these errors, don't quote me but I think it's called a 'CGI' or something close to that.

I've included a link, a long link, that is released by US Veterans and on the whole gives a good general idea of what is going on in the world today. Read it if you please.

I don't believe in a lot of what is presented, but I like the way they call it farfetched when it is. David Icke's shapeshifting dragons fall into this bracket.

The article covers a lot of territory but doesn't try to prove it or discuss it, just a mention and then moves on.

This should help anyone to get up to speed should they so wish.

Apologies once again, I was out of line. Take care.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/03/the-third-force/

[HR Solutions]

If you look at footage of the second plane hitting the WTC Towers, and then seconds away from impact you watch it frame by frame, you will notice that the left wing of the plane goes behind a building that is far from the towers.

I hear what you are saying, but what about the actual people that were there on the ground that saw it happening ?

[tec0]

The world is not a nice place. You seem to forget all the horrors in Africa as but one example. Is it not true that there is no real statistic due to the violence in that area? The "new world order" is a five hundred year old ideal shared by many powers to unite the world under one sovereignty. So yes there is nothing new because they have been at it since before our time.

The reason why most people fixate on first world countries is because they have the biggest boomsticks. That said I am yet to see any one asking the right question. "Why?" And there in is the very answer if there is or if there isn't a new world order. I mean you don't start something and keep at it for over five hundred years just because you can. What is the motivation? What is the reason? simple question "Why?"

and yet there is no simple answer just conclusions some of them can well be right others may well be wrong. Still the reason behind it all is as elusive today as it was five hundred years ago.

[Trickzta]

Just a question, but why do you feel the need for the sarcastic/ugly comments when someone asks a question or does not agree with you ?
Do you not want anyone to disagree with you ? Do you want this thread just to be about you ?

HR, I am biting my tongue to prevent me saying something sharp and cutting.

I don't think that any of this post is about me. Not at all. Ask a stupid question and most days I'll ignore it. Some days I might give a silly answer.

I am human, I am not the NWO. Teco warned me that I would not get any one that would share my point of view. Who has agreed with me thus far? Who have I blessed with ugly remarks? The worst uncalled for remark was what?

Take your ball and....not nice, but more of a humourous than an ugly intention from my perspective anyway. The comment I made about the beans was totally crass, and yes I regret saying it. But do I think it will lead a whole generation astray? No, not in a thousand years. Do I think we should censor the weird and whacky bits of the “NUTS“? No, never.
Exposing what others think in the context of conspiracies should not cause a mental issue in a young mind unless there are mental issues
to start with.

I do dish out sarcasm or wit on occasion but not with those that seek genuine communication.

Never the less if I have offended you, then I ask for forgiveness as this was not my intention at all.

If some people want to play silly buggers that is their choice. Remember that if you give you must be prepared to take.

Hope this answers your question, but if not then speak your mind and I will try explain it so that you understand it better.

Take care.

[HR Solutions]

Never the less if I have offended you, then I ask for forgiveness as this was not my intention at all.

No Prob

Teco warned me that I would not get any one that would share my point of view

And that's exactly what happened, but you retaliated, then apologized ........
As I have said to Tec before .... we all have different opinions on different topics, but we should respect each others opinions, not shout them down with sarcasm or threats or personal insults. (I am not saying that you have).

[pmbguy]

@Trickzta – You did lose your cool, but that’s ok. Just remember that your point of view is seen by most educated intelligent people as utter nonsense. It is so out there that it’s difficult for anybody to respond in a serious manner. If you want to discuss this subject in a serious manner then I think you got the wrong forum. There are lots of conspiracy theory websites out there where your ideas will be well received. Where all sorts of crazy people hang around congratulating each other’s madness. Honestly it’s a little bit embarrassing, I cringe at some of the things you say.

Conspiracy theorists always seem to come from the lower middle classes (Not saying you do Trickzta). Very few successful businessman or professionals believe in them. Furthermore, thinking in terms of a grand conspiracy controlling the world is a great way to relieve yourself of feeling shit about your own mundane existence. It is also a great excuse for not being successful, “oh the world is against us we can’t succeed we can’t win we are not in control of our own lives our position in life is determined by secret forces outside of our control”

[pmbguy]

I found some great quotes with regard to conspiracy theorists. Hits the nail rather well I think.



“The mentally disturbed do not employ the Principle of Scientific Parsimony: the most simple theory to explain a given set of facts. They shoot for the baroque.”

Philip K. Dick



“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.”

Alan Moore



“Conspiracy theory is the ultimate refuge of the powerless. If you cannot change your own life, it must be that some greater force controls the world.”

Roger Cohen

[Trickzta]

I found a little something for the people who it would seem have a little difficulty accepting the bare bone truth.

It explains where some names originated, it also reveals that the New World Order is not a theory.

While it is a long story, those of us that dislike reading can just skim through the list without the need for detail.

Alex Jones is, at first glance, one of the alternate news fraternity. On digging deeper he appears to be a CIA Asset. But that is for another day. I am not a fan of his, but there is much truth in this expose.

Quote:
In fact, if one were to look into conspiracy theories, they will largely find that thinking about a conspiracy is associated with lunacy and paranoia.* Some websites suggest it as an illness.* It is also not surprising to see so many people on the internet writing about conspiracy theories in a condescending tone, usually with the words “kool-aid,” “crack pot,” or “nut job” in their articulation.* This must be obvious to anyone that emotionally writing about such serious matter insults the reader more than the conspiracy theorist because there is no need to resort to this kind of behavior.* It is employed often with an “expert” who will say something along the lines of, “for these conspiracies to be true, you would need hundreds if not thousands of people to be involved.* It’s just not conceivable.”

http://www.infowars.com/33-conspirac...n-should-know/

[pmbguy]

Many conspiracy theories do end up as being true. The US and others will classify clandestine operations. Much foreign policy actions are done in secret, what’s new? But just because there is such a thing as realised conspiracies does not mean all are true. All conspiracies that have been exposed as true are simply business as usual. I find it hard that people are shocked to find that the CIA and other organisations do what they do. The CIA by its very definition operates in secret for the benefit of the US, they don’t have a rule book, never had. Furthermore a conspiracy involving a NWO is totally different to any conspiracy mentioned in that link. The world powers have always been enemies of each other, empires do not exists peacefully with one another. To say that China and the US are working together for the proposes of a NWO is simply at odds with reality. If you say that maybe china is not involved but the US, Europe and the common wealth are in cahoots, then I would say right on 100% correct, But what is new there?

Again it comes down to simple reasoning, simply because some conspiracies are true does not lend any credence to any other conspiracy being true. In fact those exposed conspiracy theories are evidence that the NWO does not exist. Why? because they show how the US is fighting everybody else, so no combined world effort there for a NWO. Others like water gate show internal struggles for power within the US. Which is also a blow to the NWO because a NWO would by its very definition need internal US-power cohesion to ever exist.

A simple understanding of world history, especially conflict between all the great civilisations starting with the Sumerians will show you that fundamentally a NWO is at odds with human history and human nature. The great powers have never and will never work together to control the world as one combined entity, AKA the NWO

Trickzta, may I humbly suggest that just for now let’s debate this without the use of links. I would like to hear your own views and opinions on the matter. You are definitely a true believer, I respect that, so let’s hear what You have to say.

[HR Solutions]

Yep links are based on what other people surmise or think. Absolutely no actual fact, purely "conspiracies" !! And that is one of the reasons I do not read any of them. Photoshop plays a big part also ! But people will believe what they want to believe - we are all different - some just more radical than others .

[tec0]

Yep links are based on what other people surmise or think. Absolutely no actual fact, purely "conspiracies" !! And that is one of the reasons I do not read any of them. Photoshop plays a big part also ! But people will believe what they want to believe - we are all different - some just more radical than others .

Where is your proof to disproof the above?

It is easy to shoot everything down. But you are yet to show us your research?

I would really like to see your research.

[pmbguy]

Hey tec0 how’z things? How’s your Tesla coil?

When you make a claim against the validity of a common accepted belief, then the burden of proof is on you buddy. If you produce evidence then we can debate our positions, however I have to be frank and say that absolutely nothing you guys have said is evidence of a NWO. Despite this fact I have humoured you guys by responding. After some self analysis I conclude that I must be crazy by trying to convince you guys of your folly you take so seriously.

[HR Solutions]

Tec we are talking " conspiracy theory" here !!! Do u know what that actually means ?

Answer:
the belief that the government or a covert organization is responsible for an event that is unusual or unexplained, esp when any such involvement is denied

Belief Means what people think, therefore NOT factual, therefore any link to a conspiracy theory is not factual, but a belief.